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					The Great Life Jacket Debate
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							There have been a few recent boat incidents involving boaters operating their boats without life jackets.  Both recreational boaters and racers have lost their lives in boating accidents over the past several months to a year.  I have personally witnessed a couple of these accidents and can tell you that in at least two situations life jackets did not help save lives whatsoever.  They did however help in the recovery of the deceased.  Hang on to that thought. 
 
We've all heard that old saying "all they'll do is help them find your body".  In some cases this is true.   
 
Yours truly has been guilty of operating my boat at speeds in excess of 100mph without life jackets.  After all, the choice is ours correct?  Hang on to that thought as well. 
 
Most States only require children age 13 or under to wear life jackets at all times while the boat is underway.  Oddly enough, most adults are aware of this law and have absolutely no problem slapping life jackets on their 13yr old and younger kids.  And whats even more bizarre, as soon as that child turns 14 the life jackets come off and we have absolutely no problem telling the LEO "he/she is 14 and no longer needs to wear a jacket".  And of course the LEO does the smh deal and lets us go on about our business.  So we cruise off thinking we cut a fat hog and usually never think twice about it.  Now those of you who require everyone to wear jackets while in your boat, at all times, my hat is off to you. 
 
For the rest of us, what happened to our thought process when we decided it was ok to not require a jacket on our now 14yr old?  And why do we think its ok to not wear jackets at all?  Even when our boats can travel at some pretty fast speeds? 
 
Given the fact that the boating season is upon us and the fact that good people have lost their lives, has made me rethink my somewhat casual position about not wearing jackets in my boat, no matter what speed we plan on traveling. 
 
My primary business can be pretty dangerous stuff.  OSHA has set down some pretty stringent standards and requirements and most of the time none of us have a problem abiding by these regulations.  In fact, depending on what we're doing, we welcome the protection.  Yet we (I) don't seem to have a problem hopping in our 100+ mph boats and not wearing life jackets.  If you really think about it, it doesn't make sense. 
 
I know people who have a no choice, if you're going to ride in my boat, you will wear a life jacket rule.  I applaud these people.  Sometimes its not easy to "require" your passengers to wear a life jacket.  When you make it a "put it on or no ride" rule, you've taken the option out of their hands.  And in my opinion you've taken a big precaution to saving their life in the event of a catastrophe.    
 
Now back to my earlier thoughts.   
 
Should wearing a life jacket be a choice?   
 
Do life jackets make it easier for rescue to find the body?  If so, is this a bad thing? 
 
I'm not preaching or passing judgment by any means.  I'm simply saying that I've rethought this and will now require life jackets in my performance boat.  It will no longer be an option. 
 
What are your thoughts? 
 
HB  
 
 
 
BoatUS Life Jacket Rules by State 
 
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							I think it's a great idea to require it. I know I've been on a few boat rides and thought "holy shit I wish I was wearing a life jacket right now".  
 
 
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							Yup,,, I agree totally!!!! Captains rules, ,, if they don't like it, no boating for them.  Rule on my boat is,,, No shoes..... unless she insists,,,, then the exception is you can wear the shoes, but thats the ONLY thing yer' wearin'....  :0)....
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Hotboat
					 
				 
				There have been a few recent boat incidents involving boaters operating their boats without life jackets.  Both recreational boaters and racers have lost their lives in boating accidents over the past several months to a year.  I have personally witnessed a couple of these accidents and can tell you that in at least two situations life jackets did not help save lives whatsoever.  They did however help in the recovery of the deceased.  Hang on to that thought. 
We've all heard that old saying "all they'll do is help them find your body".  In some cases this is true.  
 
Yours truly has been guilty of operating my boat at speeds in excess of 100mph without life jackets.  After all, the choice is ours correct?  Hang on to that thought as well.
 
Most States only require children age 13 or under to wear life jackets at all times while the boat is underway.  Oddly enough, most adults are aware of this law and have absolutely no problem slapping life jackets on their 13yr old and younger kids.  And whats even more bizarre, as soon as that child turns 14 the life jackets come off and we have absolutely no problem telling the LEO "he/she is 14 and no longer needs to wear a jacket".  And of course the LEO does the smh deal and lets us go on about our business.  So we cruise off thinking we cut a fat hog and usually never think twice about it.  Now those of you who require everyone to wear jackets while in your boat, at all times, my hat is off to you.
 
For the rest of us, what happened to our thought process when we decided it was ok to not require a jacket on our now 14yr old?  And why do we think its ok to not wear jackets at all?  Even when our boats can travel at some pretty fast speeds?
 
Given the fact that the boating season is upon us and the fact that good people have lost their lives, has made me rethink my somewhat casual position about not wearing jackets in my boat, no matter what speed we plan on traveling.
 
My primary business can be pretty dangerous stuff.  OSHA has set down some pretty stringent standards and requirements and most of the time none of us have a problem abiding by these regulations.  In fact, depending on what we're doing, we welcome the protection.  Yet we (I) don't seem to have a problem hopping in our 100+ mph boats and not wearing life jackets.  If you really think about it, it doesn't make sense.
 
I know people who have a no choice, if you're going to ride in my boat, you will wear a life jacket rule.  I applaud these people.  Sometimes its not easy to "require" your passengers to wear a life jacket.  When you make it a "put it on or no ride" rule, you've taken the option out of their hands.  And in my opinion you've taken a big precaution to saving their life in the event of a catastrophe.   
 
Now back to my earlier thoughts.  
 
Should wearing a life jacket be a choice?  
 
Do life jackets make it easier for rescue to find the body?  If so, is this a bad thing?
 
I'm not preaching or passing judgment by any means.  I'm simply saying that I've rethought this and will now require life jackets in my performance boat.  It will no longer be an option.
 
What are your thoughts?
 
HB 
 
BoatUS Life Jacket Rules by State
 http://www.boatus.org/life-jacket-lo...quirements.asp 
			
		 
	 
 I think we've talked about this before, but I'm 110% with life jackets being worn. I've seen too many people loose too much in the past four or five years,. Including our close family, and it's something that should be mandatory, if you're going over a certain speed.. I also think, that you should have to have a license to drive a boat...  That's my opinion.. But, I always have a strong opinion.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							The people I've given rides to have all requested a life jacket so not really an issue for me.  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Sharp shooter
					 
				 
				The people I've given rides to have all requested a life jacket so not really an issue for me.    
			
		 
	 
 How many leave the boat with dry pants?  
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Eli
					 
				 
				How many leave the boat with dry pants?  
 
 
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 All. I don't give scary rides.  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Sharp shooter
					 
				 
				All. I don't give scary rides.    
			
		 
	 
 Me neither, 
 
  
 
I don't let any one ride with me unless they have a helmet and jacket, unless I'm just cruising then just a jacket
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							I lost a friend in an accident a couple weeks ago.  3 others lost their life also.  None had lifejackets on.  I don't think there should be a law to wear lifejackets at all times when underway.  I just don't think it should be required in a wakeboard boat, a pontoon boat, etc...  If a law is passed, jackets will be required on almost every boat, if not every boat.  In my opinion, the Captain should require lifejackets when riding on a fast boat.  I can say that Grads always requires jackets on all passengers when underway.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
				
					
	
		
			
			
				
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							We have a Toon, we motor around 30 mph. I don't require wearing jackets. But I do tell everyone who rides with me the location of the jackets.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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