Lets see if we can start a thread about boats

[ogshotgun]

If your talking about ANY gas class, blown or unblown, I think if you bother to look, you are very wrong. No hemis are sitting records anywhere in anything with the possible exception of a super stock class or 2 at the asphalt drags. I think you'll find waaaay more records held by Chevy than Mopar, in ALL motorsports, not just asphalt drags. Its not even a contest.
On fuel, yeah, but don't confuse those engines with ANYTHING Chrysler ever built. Far from it.

But this isn't a pissing match about horsepower now is it? I was merely stating that the block is extremely tall and the pan is pretty deep, and that combined it forces the engine to set very high in the boat. Nothing more.

well thank you fro that nothing i can do i am not going to put a chevy in a boat thats all set up its almost 45 years old and does a honest 90 good enough

[ogshotgun]

Rule#1, If you either need help of advice or you just want people to look at your "hey look at me" thread on your boat, it would probably be best to not trash somebody else thread in an open discussion forum, and bitch. Then rant about others when they do join in your second "hey look at me" thread which so far has very little boat content and info from HIM. Just more ranting. He does best when he just post pictures.
Also, who said he was starting out. He seems to have all the answers and ZERO questions. He's NOT looking for advice he looking for attention.

wrong again not asking any questions because i have a Guy who knows it all or most and its best to keep one persons plans that a zoo of people every body has there own idea on what i should or shouldn't do...iam not building the worlds fastest boat or anything like that i am restoring a 45 year old flat bottom to better than new condition so hate away

[ogshotgun]

I have to agree with this.

not looking for advice or attention just posting pictures of my progress and every one wants to bitch about my boat.. i said lets talk about boats,,, rather than about trains vegas a asphalt parking lot with a new speed bump.. just boats didn't want a thread of lets fuck with my boat and see what a piece of shit it is.. i still have not seen anyone talk about boats just talk shit about mine lmao a holes

[HB Vic]

wrong again not asking any questions because i have a Guy who knows it all or most and its best to keep one persons plans that a zoo of people every body has there own idea on what i should or shouldn't do...iam not building the worlds fastest boat or anything like that i am restoring a 45 year old flat bottom to better than new condition so hate away

OG, the only boats Bob hates are DCB's


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[ogshotgun]

If your talking about ANY gas class, blown or unblown, I think if you bother to look, you are very wrong. No hemis are sitting records anywhere in anything with the possible exception of a super stock class or 2 at the asphalt drags. I think you'll find waaaay more records held by Chevy than Mopar, in ALL motorsports, not just asphalt drags. Its not even a contest.
On fuel, yeah, but don't confuse those engines with ANYTHING Chrysler ever built. Far from it.

But this isn't a pissing match about horsepower now is it? I was merely stating that the block is extremely tall and the pan is pretty deep, and that combined it forces the engine to set very high in the boat. Nothing more.

and yes i was talking about the blown fuel hydros .. yes i know not even close to the same thing but , the outside of the block has the same dimensions as my b/rb i can use some hemi parts bolt right on .. so its closer to a hemi block than any others is all i am saying..

[ogshotgun]

OG, the only boats Bob hates are DCB's


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seems that bob just hates boats and thats it ..

[SnoC653]

Hey SnoC, why don't you post some pictures of that Biesemeyer you have. It's been awhile since I have seen anything about it. Do you still work on it?

Because I got married right after bringing it home and the new wife has a different priority (It would have helped if her boat that I had professionally painted had held up as well as the B boat). But, she understands I have a need to finish it, so I gather things I need for it and work on little things (without spending enough for her to notice). Nothing worth posting yet. Hopefully this year there will be serious progress.

i did consider it but the cost involved would out weigh putting that much in that hull.. it'll be a good 90 mph i have it on gps at 92.6 at elsinore before ... so it will do 90 when its back in the water...i seriously thought of a new hull with a runner bottom try try or similar but none of my rigging will fit and oh well aim getting old and its not a race boat its just a dependable fun boat ...

I know first hand what Stu charges to fill in the bottom so you can reset the strut angle and strut log. While he is doing the floors would be the time to do it. But, it's your boat and if you've had it safely up to 92 and that's all you want from it, do it however you want. As I said before, it's a nice looking boat. But if it's not safe and you get hurt, it affects all of us. So stay safe.

you guys are all too fn much lmao i wanted to hear about boats and talk about boats i post pictures of my project and you look like or not i don't care i like MY boat don't care what yopu think.. AND NEVER SAID I HAD THE BEST BOAT EVER, and never said how great it is lol in fact i got bashed for not having any comments what a whole !!! and its not even close to being fast but what i have is MY boat and its in the water every weekend of the summer ... at every boat race shined up and showing and always is a turn key start..in the magazine center spread and the calendar now going on the cover so lets keep bashing my piece of shit fn boat ... post your pictures everyone ... and i was making a point about the jet boat headers seeing if anyone reads lmao...i was tired of every new post being Facebook ...and my thread about my boat isn't a documentary on how to build a boat its pictures of what i have done with a few comments .. do i really need to post a picture of a trailer thats sandblasted and say "sandblasted"? or when i paint it its fn obvious what i did doesn't need a verbal description... but than again nobody else post there shit just bash the one who's brave and proud enough to share what a bunch of a holes !!!! and for such a piece of shit i have a pile of trophies and personally invited with a front row spot ny Lucas Oil and SCRC so it must be huge pile of junk...

Not knowing something isn't a bad thing. Refusing to admit when you are wrong speaks volumes (think about that every time you see my sig line). I used to know a woman cop that posed for Playboy. She sure did look good in the magazine, if she looked like that in person it would have been even better. Seeing a picture in a magazine doesn't impress me. Getting in a magazine is more about who you know and being at the right place at the right time. If that is what makes you happy, good for you. As for a front row spot at the drags, ewww shiney!!! The boats that can do are out on the course, having a few for the fans to look at is just good business if they look nice. Your boat did look nice. How many of the fans looking at the pretty boat, know if it's right or not? You wanted content in a tech form, that is usually about making things right, not just pretty.

And maybe you could have explained why you felt the need to sandblast the trailer, why you chose what paint you did. There is a lot of things that could have been said that might help someone else. I guess it depends on if you are posting to help others or make yourself feel good.

and i don't stay up waiting for you to go to sleep before i post take a look at my post they all are late at night maybe i have different hours a..holes

Yet those of us that were on that day saw you posting about RC cars (no boat content there, even though RC boats were mentioned). Were you too sleepy to move over to the thread you started complaining about a lack of content to add any? Or was there some other reason you avoided that thread until late at night? The I was sleeping explanation doesn't float. And yes I can be an A hole. Just be glad you didn't drill with me or you'd really know how true that could be.

must be winter, some good info here and Westernareo has said it right, if a new person to boating started to read this thread they might think that if they asked a question they would get crap back, just remember when it was our turn to learn.....on that boat OG is doing it will not be a record setter but a nice ski pleasure boat at best, like everything tech has come a long way.....come on summer......

It is winter, but if someone comes on with a genuine interest in learning they are treated very differently than someone who comes on and busts people's chops for not talking about what they want to talk about when they want to talk about it. As others have pointed out, OG doesn't want answers. He has them all, just ask him.

i said its a 10 degree strut and 12 degree drive

OG you posted originally that you had a 10 degree box, with a 10 degree strut there is no way that would work, but you realized that and corrected it to a 12 degree box. My problem is, I have serious doubts if you would know how to verify either of those. Why don't you post an explanation of how you verified what they are? That would be good boating content and would help someone else maybe learn to distinguish what they have.
You also stated you took a photo and were called out on it because it had a Watermark on it, eventually the original photographer admitted to taking the picture (did you loan them your cell phone to take the pics for the site?)
I also stated your headers look like jet boat headers, you say they aren't. Cool, I asked what angle your engine is at (no content from you regarding that), GN7 looked at the pics and said they look like jet boat headers because they are. Do you think it's possible you might have bought the wrong headers? Maybe they mistakenly shipped the wrong ones? And while I may be mistaken more than some on tech stuff about these boats, I can assure you that GN7 knows more than both of us and certainly knows what v-drive v.s. jet boat headers look like.

[HB Vic]

seems that bob just hates boats and thats it ..

Negative. Just the opposite, he's very passionate about boats. That is very clear. To me anyway.


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[SnoC653]

wrong again not asking any questions because i have a Guy who knows it all or most and its best to keep one persons plans that a zoo of people every body has there own idea on what i should or shouldn't do...iam not building the worlds fastest boat or anything like that i am restoring a 45 year old flat bottom to better than new condition so hate away

Then you are only looking at the threads you want to see. There are 8 threads in V drives alone, not counting the two you are in, since the 1st. Today is the 3rd. Yep no boating content here. Why don't you post up who your answer person is, perhaps they'll weigh in since they have so much content that others could benefit from.

[ogshotgun]

Because I got married right after bringing it home and the new wife has a different priority (It would have helped if her boat that I had professionally painted had held up as well as the B boat). But, she understands I have a need to finish it, so I gather things I need for it and work on little things (without spending enough for her to notice). Nothing worth posting yet. Hopefully this year there will be serious progress.



I know first hand what Stu charges to fill in the bottom so you can reset the strut angle and strut log. While he is doing the floors would be the time to do it. But, it's your boat and if you've had it safely up to 92 and that's all you want from it, do it however you want. As I said before, it's a nice looking boat. But if it's not safe and you get hurt, it affects all of us. So stay safe.



Not knowing something isn't a bad thing. Refusing to admit when you are wrong speaks volumes (think about that every time you see my sig line). I used to know a woman cop that posed for Playboy. She sure did look good in the magazine, if she looked like that in person it would have been even better. Seeing a picture in a magazine doesn't impress me. Getting in a magazine is more about who you know and being at the right place at the right time. If that is what makes you happy, good for you. As for a front row spot at the drags, ewww shiney!!! The boats that can do are out on the course, having a few for the fans to look at is just good business if they look nice. Your boat did look nice. How many of the fans looking at the pretty boat, know if it's right or not? You wanted content in a tech form, that is usually about making things right, not just pretty.

And maybe you could have explained why you felt the need to sandblast the trailer, why you chose what paint you did. There is a lot of things that could have been said that might help someone else. I guess it depends on if you are posting to help others or make yourself feel good.



Yet those of us that were on that day saw you posting about RC cars (no boat content there, even though RC boats were mentioned). Were you too sleepy to move over to the thread you started complaining about a lack of content to add any? Or was there some other reason you avoided that thread until late at night? The I was sleeping explanation doesn't float. And yes I can be an A hole. Just be glad you didn't drill with me or you'd really know how true that could be.



It is winter, but if someone comes on with a genuine interest in learning they are treated very differently than someone who comes on and busts people's chops for not talking about what they want to talk about when they want to talk about it. As others have pointed out, OG doesn't want answers. He has them all, just ask him.


OG you posted originally that you had a 10 degree box, with a 10 degree strut there is no way that would work, but you realized that and corrected it to a 12 degree box. My problem is, I have serious doubts if you would know how to verify either of those. Why don't you post an explanation of how you verified what they are? That would be good boating content and would help someone else maybe learn to distinguish what they have.
You also stated you took a photo and were called out on it because it had a Watermark on it, eventually the original photographer admitted to taking the picture (did you loan them your cell phone to take the pics for the site?)
I also stated your headers look like jet boat headers, you say they aren't. Cool, I asked what angle your engine is at (no content from you regarding that), GN7 looked at the pics and said they look like jet boat headers because they are. Do you think it's possible you might have bought the wrong headers? Maybe they mistakenly shipped the wrong ones? And while I may be mistaken more than some on tech stuff about these boats, I can assure you that GN7 knows more than both of us and certainly knows what v-drive v.s. jet boat headers look like.

i have verified the headers with rewarder thought the same thing .. rewarder calls them a bell end long tube up swept v drive header.. i had a pair of jet boat headers at first from a ebay ad saying they were off a drive but they were way up there almost a 45 degree angle unless i put them on backwards "hence my comment", as far as not knowing what degree everything is is false i made a mistake on the box and corrected it.. you ever make a mistake ? so now aim being held liable for a mistype which i did correct the v-drive is 12 degrees had it rebuilt at casale a whirl away installed and 29 gears and a new plate thats how i know its 12 degree,, now as far as the strut its stamped 10 degree in two places so is the shaft log ,, so thats how i know,, i have never checked the motor angle but i will when its all re rigged ,, yes plugging the hole in the bottom for the shaft and drilling a new hole is about 200 bucks not bad at all , now i need to flip the boat over and fill the strut and have that recut too maybe 250 , than a new strut , shaft log , prop shaft , v drive its over 5,000 bucks to change the angle the boat is stable aim not a racer and yes it sits at the races on the trailer all shiny , but i did not contact anybody about putting my boat in on or between anything they came to me,, itys not a billy b paint job its not a 140 mph runner bottom on alcohol its not a k-boat its a old wriest and its fine with me...i didn't put any picture comments because it will turn into a pissing match of i did it wrong or this or that ,, once again i am just redoing whats there not reinventing the wheel my friends..one thing i can say is un like most flats that sit on the trailer at the river or lake waiting for a perfect pass. i have mine on anchor all day all weekend in fact ill put it in aslip and leave it there over night .so some one looks at a picture of my upswept headers and says wow your engine is at a STEEP angle well look at the valve covers and make the same comment, i sand blasted the trailer because it had house paint about 1/4" thick.. didn't care to brag.