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03-19-2014, 12:58 PM
#121
 Originally Posted by gn7
No, but I would be thinking if the very best timing chain you know if.
Not to make things any worse, but the lack of a damper isn't making the chain any happier either.
So you think an extra impeller is going to put an over the top extreme amount of resistance over the already 1 impeller it's driving and the shit piles of valve spring pressure that it's already turning?
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03-19-2014, 01:07 PM
#122
Senior Member
Damn, I can't believe I jumped into this thread earlier, without starting from page 1. Freekin Awesome work Kevin.
Believe 1/2 of what you see and nothing of what you hear. 
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03-19-2014, 01:32 PM
#123
Senior Member
 Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO
very nice
ARNG SPC
Los Alamitos JFTB
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03-19-2014, 01:41 PM
#124
Senior Member
Looking good Kevin!
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03-19-2014, 02:04 PM
#125
Senior Member
 Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO
So you think an extra impeller is going to put an over the top extreme amount of resistance over the already 1 impeller it's driving and the shit piles of valve spring pressure that it's already turning?
Roller cam, two pumps, no damper. It all adds up. Just be sure you use a GOOD chain. There is some shit out there and some of it has well known names one them. VERY WELL KNOWN NAMES.
If the engine isn't already together, I would consider a Rollmaster set.
Stay away from ones from the cam campanies. Most of them are buying gear from Dyna Gear and the chain from a separate vendor. Ton of chain coming out of India, some with Reynolds name on them. Reynolds is a good chain, if it comes from England. But you can't tell.
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03-19-2014, 03:48 PM
#126
Senior Member
Westernaero, how about posting some pictures with description's of the machine's that make those parts?
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03-19-2014, 03:51 PM
#127
Senior Member
 Originally Posted by gn7
Roller cam, two pumps, no damper. It all adds up. Just be sure you use a GOOD chain. There is some shit out there and some of it has well known names one them. VERY WELL KNOWN NAMES.
If the engine isn't already together, I would consider a Rollmaster set.
Stay away from ones from the cam campanies. Most of them are buying gear from Dyna Gear and the chain from a separate vendor. Ton of chain coming out of India, some with Reynolds name on them. Reynolds is a good chain, if it comes from England. But you can't tell.
Is the chain Cloye's sell's worth a darn?
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03-19-2014, 04:00 PM
#128
 Originally Posted by HotWater
Westernaero, how about posting some pictures with description's of the machine's that make those parts?
Stanley hammer & Harbor Freight chisel. And a six pack of PBR. I've got a pretty low over head.
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03-19-2014, 04:03 PM
#129
Senior Member
 Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO
Stanley hammer & Harbor Freight chisel. And a six pack of PBR. I've got a pretty low over head. 
I'd say so. I'd love to see what you could accomplish with my Harbor Freight 7x10.
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03-19-2014, 06:27 PM
#130
Senior Member
 Originally Posted by HotWater
Is the chain Cloye's sell's worth a darn?
They can be. The problem is that they, along with virtually all the others, go with the chain that is available at the time that meets the price. I have seen Cloyes hex adjusts that had two different chains. IWIS and Rolon 
I see Cloyes "Billet" sets with DID and Reynolds.
Rollmaster is the only set that I know of that uses a IWIS chain in every set,
If you are going to run a Cloyes, I would run the Race Billet set, not the Hex Adjust, and definitely not the Quick Adjust!!!! I want to believe they are putting the best chain possible in those sets.
The one thing you have to very watchful for is the word "BILLET" It always sounds so cool, be they have a less than "RACE" billet econo set too. And that's the set 90% of the cam companies are peddling.
Its hard to convince yourself that there is difference between Cloyes TX-9 set for 160.00 , and Howard Cams "double roller billet" for 87.00, Trick Flow's Billet for 79.00,
If you look at Crane, they have one billet set for 118.00, and another for 198.00. Hard to justify that 80.00, until your valves are getting intimate.
Its hard to save much money on a billet sprocket. The savings in any of these sets is in the chain. When the "billet" sets get really cheap like the Howards and Trick Flow, its usually a import sprockets(s) and cheap India or Chinese chain.
Its the chain that ALWAYS fails. I have seen one IRON crank sprocket fail in my life. Never seen a steel crank sprocket fail. Never seen a cam sprocket, iron or billet fail.
This chain failed in 4 hrs. (not mine) I had one fail mid season(Manley). That was enough for me, and I switch to a gear drive. 2 Milodon gear drive setups was cheaper (than pistons, valves and new T set) repairs from the failed T set
Last edited by gn7; 03-19-2014 at 07:13 PM.
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