Prop Shaft

**SnoC653** · 04-22-2014, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by ogshotgun

I believe you said you were making a new cavitation plate for your boat . thats copying what a company made and , yet you have no problem with doing that, did you source the original person who designed that plate and pay them royalties? i doubt it... same shit applies

I am making plates for my boat. I am not copying the plates that were on it. The new plates will have different hardware locations and different hole locations/numbers for attaching it to the boat. Yes they will use the same basic dimensions (since they are limited to hull width, but exact length may vary, metal type and thickness will vary). Does that sound like a copy (3-D scan model ready to be fed into a CNC machine and then duplicated) to you?

Again, there is a huge difference between using a non-patented concept to make your own and making an exact copy of someone else's work and charging someone for it.

**gn7** · 04-22-2014, 10:46 AM

I see snoc is still making senseless comments on a subject he knows nothing about.

**SnoC653** · 04-22-2014, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by gn7

I see snoc is still making senseless comments on a subject he knows nothing about.

Look who's back. Did you catch a couple meetings and now feel qualified to post again? I see you are still spewing BS instead of facts. Are you sure I don't know anything about design infringement? Of course you're not, but it sure sounds good when you don't have anything to refute the facts with. There is a legal and an ethical difference between copying and developing your own. Since you generally seem to lack intelligent thoughts of your own, I'm sure you wouldn't know the difference between original and someone else's work.

**gn7** · 04-22-2014, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by SnoC653

Look who's back. Did you catch a couple meetings and now feel qualified to post again? I see you are still spewing BS instead of facts. Are you sure I don't know anything about design infringement? Of course you're not, but it sure sounds good when you don't have anything to refute the facts with. There is a legal and an ethical difference between copying and developing your own. Since you generally seem to lack intelligent thoughts of your own, I'm sure you wouldn't know the difference between original and someone else's work.

Fact, from Nov 2012 to April 2013, I bought, tested, modified, retest, re-modified more props than you ever owned in total. We sold off 6 of them as near useless to us. And you THINK you are qualitied to tell me what the fuck reverse engineering is in prop. I can GUANATEE YOU, THAT WE WON THE 2012 CHAMPIUONSHIP ON THE PROP MORE THAN ANY SINGLE FACTOR. Please explain to me you fucking moron, the INTEL gathered in all that belong to the prop maker, the guy(s) that tweeked them, or ME? You fucking delusional asshole

You ONLY get into these discussions and spread your useless diatribe because somehow you think it makes your presence relative. What a fucking joke,

**SnoC653** · 04-22-2014, 02:40 PM

Hey Einstein, reverse engineering applies to more than props. Nobody is designing the props they are copying, they are simply copying someone else's work and selling it for a profit. Why do you think most companies that do 3-D copying make a fuss about making only 1 copy for the original owner so they can have one backup copy. Copying other people's products is a very strictly defined legal nightmare. And in civil court, it's not beyond a doubt, it's a preponderance of the evidence. But, you know that, since you think you know everything. If you think my info is incorrect, ask our resident lawyer.

Oh wait, that would be like using facts. Like the fact, you didn't test anything, your driver tested the props. You apparently lack a certain part of your anatomy required to race a boat yourself. But, keep calling yourself a racer, it sounds better than loud mouth.

**gn7** · 04-22-2014, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by SnoC653

Hey Einstein, reverse engineering applies to more than props. Nobody is designing the props they are copying, they are simply copying someone else's work and selling it for a profit. Why do you think most companies that do 3-D copying make a fuss about making only 1 copy for the original owner so they can have one backup copy. Copying other people's products is a very strictly defined legal nightmare. And in civil court, it's not beyond a doubt, it's a preponderance of the evidence. But, you know that, since you think you know everything. If you think my info is incorrect, ask our resident lawyer.

Oh wait, that would be like using facts. Like the fact, you didn't test anything, your driver tested the props. You apparently lack a certain part of your anatomy required to race a boat yourself. But, keep calling yourself a racer, it sounds better than loud mouth.

I will ask one more fucking time, are the props I had worked, the makers, the tuners or MINE?? Answer the fucking question genius?

I wouldn't talk about racing a boat. The closest you have come is a piece of worn out fiberglass on a trailer you aren't allowed to build. Talk about lacking some nuts

**SnoC653** · 04-22-2014, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by gn7

I will ask one more fucking time, are the props I had worked, the makers, the tuners or MINE?? Answer the fucking question genius?

I wouldn't talk about racing a boat. The closest you have come is a piece of worn out fiberglass on a trailer you aren't allowed to build. Talk about lacking some nuts

You have to learn to answer questions before you get answers. And lack of budget due to other priorities is way different than your lack of testicles. You supposedly own a running race boat. But, your butt won't be found in the seat during anything resembling a race now will it?

**ogshotgun** · 04-22-2014, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by SnoC653

I am making plates for my boat. I am not copying the plates that were on it. The new plates will have different hardware locations and different hole locations/numbers for attaching it to the boat. Yes they will use the same basic dimensions (since they are limited to hull width, but exact length may vary, metal type and thickness will vary). Does that sound like a copy (3-D scan model ready to be fed into a CNC machine and then duplicated) to you?

Again, there is a huge difference between using a non-patented concept to make your own and making an exact copy of someone else's work and charging someone for it.

so since your making a copy and doing a very slight change its okay because your doing it, but if i take a prop and do a slight change the world ends ... your not on earth

**SnoC653** · 04-22-2014, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by ogshotgun

so since your making a copy and doing a very slight change its okay because your doing it, but if i take a prop and do a slight change the world ends ... your not on earth

Reading comprehension seems to be lacking around here. If you take a prop and copy it, that is not the same as making a replacement part to take the place of a broken part (a part that fits the same space, but is not a direct copy) A digitally copied then reproduced part is a copy. It's not slightly changed, it's a copy.

**ogshotgun** · 04-22-2014, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by SnoC653

Reading comprehension seems to be lacking around here. If you take a prop and copy it, that is not the same as making a replacement part to take the place of a broken part (a part that fits the same space, but is not a direct copy) A digitally copied then reproduced part is a copy. It's not slightly changed, it's a copy.

i can guarantee you nothing is exactly the fn same not even from the same shop its called tolerances , now what ?