Communist Core math

[SnoC653]

Thanks for even further enlightenment Snoc. Anyone else see the hypocrisy in the logic behind common core? They want to teach our kids to follow the rules when the very same people that are pushing this are the #1 rule breakers.
Almost sounds like they're producing a bunch of mindless sheep that will follow the rules all the way to slaughter. Because the end result isn't important, what's important is you were a good quiet little sheep.


Oath Keeper

Are the parents of these kids any better at following the rules? Do they even care if their kids follow the rules? Unfortunately most don't, all they care about is that they don't want to deal with it. That is why they send their kids to school, so someone else can teach them and do all the work. Most of the teachers I know don't like CC any more that the rest of us, but they do follow the rules to the best of their abilities, so they are teaching it. And you are only seeing one half of the problem. Any idea how much additional paperwork and documentation requirements go along with CC? I've seen teachers working well into the night trying to accomplish all the new mandated administrative BS that goes with the program. Don't tell me the teachers teaching it are the rule breakers, they are just stuck with it like the rest of us. And the people that passed this mess, like usual, are not effected by it one bit, because they don't actually have to teach it or use it. In fact most of the lawmakers that voted for it, have never taught a class in their life, let alone really know what it takes to educate a child.

YES IT IS ACTUALLY!!!!

While I don't take exception with teaching alternate ways to learn ANY subject I have a huge problem with only one way to teach or do anything. The whole process creates a group of followers IMO and not leaders and thinkers who are taught trained that there is more than one road to any destination. This is the point for me and I HAVE taken the time to understand this subject....thank you very much.

So teach the alternate ways at home. That's great. But by your definition, why should i have to memorize dates in History class, I've learned that I can get the same answer by using my smart phone and using Google. Why should you have to learn any process, when you can get the answer by asking someone else?

And as I stated before, the answers are not what is being taught. The process used to get that answer is being taught. Are you saying that because little Jimmy can't learn the process being taught, we should let him do something else? And is the problem really that Jimmy can't get it? Or is the problem that his parents don't get it, so they tell him it's stupid and he doesn't need to learn it? Common Core is intended to teach it at the lowest level. Once a child has learned it in the most basic form, they can learn short cuts and other methods to expedite the process. Just like learning to drive a car, remember all the steps we had to go through when we took drivers ed? Do you expect me to believe you hit every step, every time you get in the car to drive? Or were we taught at the basic level and as we gained experience and proficiency we were allowed to focus more on results rather than process?

The math being discussed is about a process. The problem with CC isn't about them using a different process. The problem is all the little extras snuck into the program. And I haven't seen anyone mention any of those little jewels.

[riverrunner1984]

Does anyone know if charter schools have to follow common core?

[Paul65K]

How's your tummy feeling Homer??

[C-2]

Does anyone know if charter schools have to follow common core?

Don't know about charter, but my daughter attends a private school and they follow it.

[riverrunner1984]

Don't know about charter, but my daughter attends a private school and they follow it.

Wow I would have never thought private schools would follow it...

[2manymustangs]

Wow I would have never thought private schools would follow it...

Homeschool is the way to go... You can teach your kids the way you wish... It is highly organized and there are several curriculum providers to choose from, one of my close friends creates/publishes/sells U.S. HISTORY home school curriculum...

There are MANY tight knit homeschool groups where the parents take turns teaching certain subjects based on their vocation/profession/degrees/interest...

There are also MANY homeschool oriented athletic/sports/social events...

[SnoC653]

Homeschool is the way to go... You can teach your kids the way you wish... It is highly organized and there are several curriculum providers to choose from, one of my close friends creates/publishes/sells U.S. HISTORY home school curriculum...

There are MANY tight knit homeschool groups where the parents take turns teaching certain subjects based on their vocation/profession/degrees/interest...

There are also MANY homeschool oriented athletic/sports/social events...

You do realize that even the homeschool curriculums will need to be adjusted to cover the common core processes? Home schooled children still have to pass state mandated assessment testing, which is being revised in most states to cover the common core curriculum.

I do agree that home schooling has many advantages if the parents are willing to put in the time and effort to do the job right. Unfortunately, most people won't put forth the effort or lack the skills required to do the job right. And many home schooled children lack in social skill sets due to their isolation from their pier groups.

Most of us remember the trouble we got into and the good times we had with other kids we went to school with. Kids need time to grow and be kids without constant parental control (not to be confused with parental awareness and guidance). Integration is a critical part of the social school life and most home schooled children lack in this area.

[HB Vic]

I just barfed all over my bagel 😷

[Paul65K]

I just barfed all over my bagel 

Now that's funny

[2manymustangs]

I just barfed all over my bagel ��

THis post is worthless without pics...