Best Hamburger I ever had

**ChumpChange** · 03-02-2014, 08:56 PM

I found the post great. A site must take a hard stance of "if you don't like it or leave" when it comes to the posting of pornographic images, which he did. Be within the rules and life is pretty simple when it comes to forums. I'd like this forum to remain which is why I found the post doing its job.

**Stainless** · 03-02-2014, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mateo

I found the post great. A site must take a hard stance of "if you don't like it or leave" when it comes to the posting of pornographic images, which he did. Be within the rules and life is pretty simple when it comes to forums. I'd like this forum to remain which is why I found the post doing its job.

Edit, see OP

Bench race driver of the NHRA 16X Castrol GTX Mustang

**The Doctor** · 03-02-2014, 09:17 PM

This one's not a "catch 22" it's a "catch 44."

First and foremost, it's their sandbox and we are all guests --- Invited guests that they have every right to un-invite at their discretion.
That being said, they then trust a third-party to administer the affairs of their site as moderator/administrator and turn over trust to said third-party who may not share 100% of the owner's values/beliefs/attitudes and who may get caught up in personal issues with members. I've seen sites lose a majority of their membership just for allowing the "wrong" person to act as moderator or administrator. Forum rules are very tough to decide upon but they are even tougher to enforce because no matter what rule you adopt, there will always be "certain" members who always seem to tread on the thin ice of breaking forum rules.

I'm glad I don't have to do it. I've read the posts of hundreds of people I would ban just for their stupidity, much less their abuses of the rules or other members.

But I do love a good burger . . .

**HB Vic** · 03-02-2014, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Doctor

This one's not a "catch 22" it's a "catch 44."

First and foremost, it's their sandbox and we are all guests --- Invited guests that they have every right to un-invite at their discretion.
That being said, they then trust a third-party to administer the affairs of their site as moderator/administrator and turn over trust to said third-party who may not share 100% of the owner's values/beliefs/attitudes and who may get caught up in personal issues with members. I've seen sites lose a majority of their membership just for allowing the "wrong" person to act as moderator or administrator. Forum rules are very tough to decide upon but they are even tougher to enforce because no matter what rule you adopt, there will always be "certain" members who always seem to tread on the thin ice of breaking forum rules.

I'm glad I don't have to do it. I've read the posts of hundreds of people I would ban just for their stupidity, much less their abuses of the rules or other members.

But I do love a good burger . . .

Doc I hope that's not the feeling around here. I don't like to think of this place as my sand box. This place was built for you, the members, not for the owners. That being said on occasion when someone takes a poop in the sandbox it has the be cleaned up. Rules are made to be broken, that's why we don't have a laundry list of SOP's or RnR's. Just a few very basic rules we want people to be aware of and follow so as not to poop in everyone's sand. A couple of the mods are regular members. We entrust them to enforce the rules. Based on the events that occurred last night, Admin2 took a very reasonable approach to the offense. I was the one who banned Grads today, after I gathered the facts. So I saw no personal conflict here, just the opposite.

**The Doctor** · 03-03-2014, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Hotboat

Doc I hope that's not the feeling around here. I don't like to think of this place as my sand box. This place was built for you, the members, not for the owners. That being said on occasion when someone takes a poop in the sandbox it has the be cleaned up. Rules are made to be broken, that's why we don't have a laundry list of SOP's or RnR's. Just a few very basic rules we want people to be aware of and follow so as not to poop in everyone's sand. A couple of the mods are regular members. We entrust them to enforce the rules. Based on the events that occurred last night, Admin2 took a very reasonable approach to the offense. I was the one who banned Grads today, after I gathered the facts. So I saw no personal conflict here, just the opposite.

I was speaking in forum generalities. I'm still here because I enjoy the dialogue and find it enjoyable and entertaining. I have not even logged on to my account in two other boat sites for the reasons I've stated. I'm aware that I am an acceptable loss in any forum and, as a result, I behave myself accordingly.

Truth be told, I was told the old Hotboat was a trainwreck and when this site came on line I registered in an effort to help this site become what it could be - an excellent resource and outlet for avid boaters. To date, it has continued to grow into just that and I appreciate my membership here.

As for the other two boating sites, one has a crotchety old hemorrhoid moderator that has personally decided to pick and choose who he likes and what he wants people to say while the other sandbox is so full of crap it has become completely "Brown" and it's beyond the point of finding any sand in there. Not worth cleaning out any more.

**HB Vic** · 03-03-2014, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by The Doctor

I was speaking in forum generalities. I'm still here because I enjoy the dialogue and find it enjoyable and entertaining. I have not even logged on to my account in two other boat sites for the reasons I've stated. I'm aware that I am an acceptable loss in any forum and, as a result, I behave myself accordingly.

Truth be told, I was told the old Hotboat was a trainwreck and when this site came on line I registered in an effort to help this site become what it could be - an excellent resource and outlet for avid boaters. To date, it has continued to grow into just that and I appreciate my membership here.

As for the other two boating sites, one has a crotchety old hemorrhoid moderator that has personally decided to pick and choose who he likes and what he wants people to say while the other sandbox is so full of crap it has become completely "Brown" and it's beyond the point of finding any sand in there. Not worth cleaning out any more.

Ok gotcha. I appreciate the feedback. We really are trying to make this a more enjoyable place for people to gather.

**struv** · 03-03-2014, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by The Doctor

I was speaking in forum generalities. I'm still here because I enjoy the dialogue and find it enjoyable and entertaining. I have not even logged on to my account in two other boat sites for the reasons I've stated. I'm aware that I am an acceptable loss in any forum and, as a result, I behave myself accordingly.

Truth be told, I was told the old Hotboat was a trainwreck and when this site came on line I registered in an effort to help this site become what it could be - an excellent resource and outlet for avid boaters. To date, it has continued to grow into just that and I appreciate my membership here.

As for the other two boating sites, one has a crotchety old hemorrhoid moderator that has personally decided to pick and choose who he likes and what he wants people to say while the other sandbox is so full of crap it has become completely "Brown" and it's beyond the point of finding any sand in there. Not worth cleaning out any more.

Doc, why the red text? I personally find it offensive.

**The Doctor** · 03-04-2014, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by struv

Doc, why the red text? I personally find it offensive.

It's more of a signature than anything. I've been on several forums since the advent of the Internet and have always chosen to type in red. All my e-mails, business and personal are in red as well. Sorry for the offense. None is intended, nor ever has been. My daughter lives next to you in Rancho Cucamonga where we visit regularly and I'd gladly meet up with you some time if you want to ball me out in person.

We'll catch a burger? Yeah! That's the ticket!

**ChumpChange** · 03-02-2014, 09:19 PM

/\ Now people know my real name!

Will go back and read again. Although not even I know who Admin2 is, I doubt he/she is a new member to the site. Probably knows history and the need for certain "Internet tones" in certain situations.