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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDenton View Post
    Wet mag?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ogshotgun View Post
    its a two part dye one soaks in the other brings out the crack




    Quote Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO View Post
    Differences are strength. You can have it tested to find out but you're going to loose an inch off the shaft to do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrDenton View Post
    Can't afford an inch. I'll contact Darner. Thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ogshotgun View Post
    there ARE LOCAL SHOPS THAT HAVE A DYE LIQUID THEY APPLY AND IT TELLS THEM EXACTLY WHAT IT IS..
    You keep posting OG, This shit gets better by all the time.
    Westernaero, has to be on the floor rolling by now,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    You keep posting OG, This shit gets better by all the time.
    Westernaero, has to be on the floor rolling by now,.
    I'm not saying anything...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    You keep posting OG, This shit gets better by all the time.
    Westernaero, has to be on the floor rolling by now,.
    you can go to bob barnes at vernes chrome plating he has 30 plus in metallurgy i believe is what he said, he has a liquid he puts on any metal and it tells him what it is .. i didn't invent this stuff just saw it in action and sharing what i found ,, also didn't mean to use all caps ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ogshotgun View Post
    you can go to bob barnes at vernes chrome plating he has 30 plus in metallurgy i believe is what he said, he has a liquid he puts on any metal and it tells him what it is .. i didn't invent this stuff just saw it in action and sharing what i found ,, also didn't mean to use all caps ..
    I know Bob quite well, He did all the chrome on two street rods I built over 30 years ago as well as a few things I my boats. I don't think he has any such thing magic liquid or spray.

    The post with these pictures posted 11-09-13, had written with them, up until today at 1:37 PM that these parts were ready to go for type III hard anodizing. WTF happened there. Did Bob pour some magic liquid on them and tell you that wasn't going to happen with these parts?
    Like I said OG, you keep posting words and less pictures, and you are just reaffirming what some of us already know



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    I know Bob quite well, He did all the chrome on two street rods I built over 30 years ago as well as a few things I my boats. I don't think he has any such thing magic liquid or spray.

    The post with these pictures posted 11-09-13, had written with them, up until today at 1:37 PM that these parts were ready to go for type III hard anodizing. WTF happened there. Did Bob pour some magic liquid on them and tell you that wasn't going to happen with these parts?
    Like I said OG, you keep posting words and less pictures, and you are just reaffirming what some of us already know



    what i said was i had part ready to go to be hard type111 anodized and powder coated all these were polished and clear coated they look nice don't they ? did you look at the pictures of the black hard anodizing they look great too, and the powder coating was a exact match to my boat color very happy with the way they turned out.. not too happy with your abuse but its ok your old and grumpy i get it lol
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Size:  39.9 KBfor some reason you grab a few pictures out of many and add to it lol heres the rest of the photos you missed , and bob does not do anodizing of any type but you already know that and aim sure will throw that soon enough , i called bob and asked about his magic liquid he said " it was something he mad 20 years ago to tell the metal type , and that it won't break down all different metals within a given family but it works for his purpose .. my mistake sorry ..

    Sonic Plating did the hard anodizing
    Vernes did the powder coating, polishing, and chrome ... he does not do anodizing at all
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    All right, I'm going to put this out there again but I'm not going into longwinded detail again.

    AQ17 is the same as 17-4PH (H1150 condition)..............................135,000 PSI tensile, 105,000 tension, 70,000 torsion
    AQ22 is Nitronic 50 With a slightly different H/T process..................145,000 PSI tensile, 130,000 tension, 86,000 torsion
    K Monel is nickel 500 or K500.............................................. ........145,000 PSI tensile, 110,000 tension

    These materials are all subject to work hardening if not machined correctly. They can get micro stress cracks and fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO View Post
    All right, I'm going to put this out there again but I'm not going into longwinded detail again.

    AQ17 is the same as 17-4PH (H1150 condition)..............................135,000 PSI tensile, 105,000 tension, 70,000 torsion
    AQ22 is Nitronic 50 With a slightly different H/T process..................145,000 PSI tensile, 130,000 tension, 86,000 torsion
    K Monel is nickel 500 or K500.............................................. ........145,000 PSI tensile, 110,000 tension

    These materials are all subject to work hardening if not machined correctly. They can get micro stress cracks and fail.
    Both the machining of the key way and well as the taper. Specially if the spindle speed at the large end of the taper is too fast for the diameter.
    I am still suspect that were seen at the enduro may have been the result of machining,

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    survey is that my aqua met 17 shaft will be sent out for mag inspection and if all is good goes back in.. thanks kevin
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Well that should prove to be a trick in itself right there. Good luck with that.
    would you care to elaborate ?
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