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 Originally Posted by SBS933
What he said.
But heres the deal. The speed of the plane is a product of the wheels. So if you take the ability of the wheels to turn power into speed, I.e. you negate any ability of the plane to achieve any kind of forward motion, you will never ever take off. Unless you have a jet engine attached to a glider.
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I considered Bre's box one of the most infamous threads of all time. Might have been before your time though.
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 Originally Posted by Wheeler
Then again, While talking with Tom today he mentioned that Wendi banned him for this site. Too much competition I guess. 
No competition there, Tom is definitely the bigger ass...err...has a bigger ass.
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 Originally Posted by Tishimself
But heres the deal. The speed of the plane is a product of the wheels.
The wheels are not powered, the propeller is. What if we take the wheels off and use floats in their place and point the plane up river
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 Originally Posted by Wheeler
The wheels are not powered, the propeller is. What if we take the wheels off and use floats in their place and point the plane up river
Sorry, for the purposes of this argument, it has to be limited to wheels only. But tell me, with out wheels, how does the prop move forward. If they are turning 100mph due to the movement of the treadmill, how are you ever going to move forward when you can maybe generate 100mph without the treadmill...??
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 Originally Posted by Tishimself
Sorry, for the purposes of this argument, it has to be limited to wheels only. But tell me, with out wheels, how does the prop move forward. If they are turning 100mph due to the movement of the treadmill, how are you ever going to move forward when you can maybe generate 100mph without the treadmill...??
It will need to overcome any drag induced by an outside source and when the plane reaches V2 it will be off. And safely I might add.
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 Originally Posted by Tishimself
Sorry, for the purposes of this argument, it has to be limited to wheels only. But tell me, with out wheels, how does the prop move forward. If they are turning 100mph due to the movement of the treadmill, how are you ever going to move forward when you can maybe generate 100mph without the treadmill...??
As mentioned, the wheels and their speed have nothing to do with lift. If lift plus thrust is greater than drag plus weight the plan will accelerate until they are equal or climb. And long before the drag of the wheels could overcome the thrust the plane will develops lift which will reduce that drag to nothing. Even a fully loaded 747 can climb at over 500 feet per minute. As soon as the wings start flying the treadmill becomes a none factor.
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