The Return of the most infamous HB thread of all time... :D

**SBS933** · 01-21-2014, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by SnoC653

Of course it will take off. But it better be one very long treadmill. The only thing the plane has to over come is the drag of the wheel bearings and tires from the weight of the plane with no lift on the wings. This is a very minute portion of the engine's capabilities but it would still increase the distance required to travel in order to take off. Once the plane started to move forward and generate lift, it would accelerate faster and faster until it generated enough lift to fly. It takes airspeed to generate lift, not tire speed. So if it takes 68 knots to generate enough lift to fly normally, it would still take 68 knots of forward airspeed, not tire speed to generate the lift required to fly regardless of how fast the tires were spinning.

What he said.

**Tishimself** · 01-21-2014, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by SBS933

What he said.

But heres the deal. The speed of the plane is a product of the wheels. So if you take the ability of the wheels to turn power into speed, I.e. you negate any ability of the plane to achieve any kind of forward motion, you will never ever take off. Unless you have a jet engine attached to a glider.

**Wheeler** · 01-21-2014, 10:34 PM

I considered Bre's box one of the most infamous threads of all time. Might have been before your time though.

**Ziggy** · 01-21-2014, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Wheeler

I considered Bre's box one of the most infamous threads of all time. Might have been before your time though.

Man o man were her early posts during the Andy years classic......butt plugs and all

:p

From my POS T-mobile thingie

**Wheeler** · 01-21-2014, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ziggy

Man o man were her early posts during the Andy years classic......butt plugs and all

:p

A friend has those pix and more, he's trying to get 'em out the the old modem now. I hear that Tom Brown is working on the old system trying to retrieve them for us all to see again, Right Here on Hot Boat!!

Then again, While talking with Tom today he mentioned that Wendi banned him for this site. Too much competition I guess.

**ChumpChange** · 01-21-2014, 10:48 PM

Bre and Foxy99!!!!!!!!!

**Eli** · 01-22-2014, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Wheeler

Then again, While talking with Tom today he mentioned that Wendi banned him for this site. Too much competition I guess.

No competition there, Tom is definitely the bigger ass...err...has a bigger ass.

Sent from my Bat Cave

**Wheeler** · 01-21-2014, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Tishimself

But heres the deal. The speed of the plane is a product of the wheels.

The wheels are not powered, the propeller is. What if we take the wheels off and use floats in their place and point the plane up river

**Tishimself** · 01-21-2014, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Wheeler

The wheels are not powered, the propeller is. What if we take the wheels off and use floats in their place and point the plane up river

Sorry, for the purposes of this argument, it has to be limited to wheels only. But tell me, with out wheels, how does the prop move forward. If they are turning 100mph due to the movement of the treadmill, how are you ever going to move forward when you can maybe generate 100mph without the treadmill...??

**Wheeler** · 01-21-2014, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Tishimself

Sorry, for the purposes of this argument, it has to be limited to wheels only. But tell me, with out wheels, how does the prop move forward. If they are turning 100mph due to the movement of the treadmill, how are you ever going to move forward when you can maybe generate 100mph without the treadmill...??

It will need to overcome any drag induced by an outside source and when the plane reaches V2 it will be off. And safely I might add.