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 Originally Posted by Havasu Party Bus
Yep this is the one's i use to train all my Dogs.  
JUst remember that the collar he is holding is ONLY for training. It's not a go out and walk the dog collar. It can be VERY painful for a dog, and to tell you the truth, if she tries hard to do the right thing, use a regular choke, and use that one sparingly. My experience with the one above is it is for problem children, so to speak. If your dog is getting it, even though it may be slower than you like, don't use the spike collar.....just my .02.
....as an aside, the leash training thing. walk in a tight area, with no distractions. With a choker at this point. No spikes. Have her start seated next to your left leg, head even with your knee. Step out, say come!! She should come, but not lead, but stay even with you. if she gets the SLIGHTEST bit ahead of you, yank her back, not hard at first, just enough to show her that leading you is wrong. Do this in your backyard with no distractions, cats, squirrels, etc. Couple of weeks, should do the trick....best of luck...if none of this works, then move up to the spike collar.
Last edited by Tishimself; 10-11-2013 at 08:25 PM.
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 Originally Posted by Tishimself
JUst remember that the collar he is holding is ONLY for training. It's not a go out and walk the dog collar. It can be VERY painful for a dog, and to tell you the truth, if she tries hard to do the right thing, use a regular choke, and use that one sparingly. My experience with the one above is it is for problem children, so to speak. If your dog is getting it, even though it may be slower than you like, don't use the spike collar.....just my .02.
....as an aside, the leash training thing. walk in a tight area, with no distractions. With a choker at this point. No spikes. Have her start seated next to your left leg, head even with your knee. Step out, say come!! She should come, but not lead, but stay even with you. if she gets the SLIGHTEST bit ahead of you, yank her back, not hard at first, just enough to show her that leading you is wrong. Do this in your backyard with no distractions, cats, squirrels, etc. Couple of weeks, should do the trick....best of luck...if none of this works, then move up to the spike collar.
Fantastic advice if I didn't already try all that. The little bit of pit in this one makes her neck indestructible. I can crank on the collar when she starts to lead and she'd rather hang herself while sitting on her hind legs than to obey my commands...she just wants to go. I need something that will get her attention like right eff'n now. I've never had to resort to the spike collar and that's why I'm on here asking. This one is a pistol and I'm afraid I'm going to have to take it to the next level. Nothing makes me more cranky like running out of chew than a non-obedient animal.
Looks like a spike collar is in order for tomorrow.
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 Originally Posted by Cigalert
Fantastic advice if I didn't already try all that. The little bit of pit in this one makes her neck indestructible. I can crank on the collar when she starts to lead and she'd rather hang herself while sitting on her hind legs than to obey my commands...she just wants to go. I need something that will get her attention like right eff'n now. I've never had to resort to the spike collar and that's why I'm on here asking. This one is a pistol and I'm afraid I'm going to have to take it to the next level. Nothing makes me more cranky like running out of chew than a non-obedient animal.
Looks like a spike collar is in order for tomorrow.
It's a yank first UP, then backwards, to get her back into position next to you, every time, as long as she does it, each time harder. If this still does not work, the spike collar will drive it home....LOL....
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I ended up getting a harness that goes around the neck, down the chest and across the belly and back.....works great. Some of those metal ones are just cruel.
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