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							Ok, what is bad about Fram oil filters. I have ran the HP4 for years but the new power has the HP6. Not trying to start any crap just maybe a little naive about this. I have been wanting to change over to Wix since that is the mfg of the fuel filter I use. 
 
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							Used to run Fram Racing, but switched to K&N a few years ago when I heard Fram changed up there internals.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							GN7, I would like to know what micron the filters are that you run. You said you run 2, are they the same micron? Or are they staged from large to small?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  WESTERNAERO
					 
				 
				GN7, I would like to know what micron the filters are that you run. You said you run 2, are they the same micron? Or are they staged from large to small? 
			
		 
	 
 I run K&N and they have about a 15-20 micron rating. I am considering changing back to Wix.Nothing wrong with K&Ns NOW, but the company that makes them was bought by Fram, and they are starting to make some of the worse filter out there. K&Ns are still damn good filters, but I have to wonder for how long.  
I run 2 in parallel, so the oil is split between the 2 of them, mainly to lower the flow restriction. The filter mount to the oil cooler, and it uses 2 filters. More for the cooler than the fact that it uses 2 filters.  
 
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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							Okay, I was thinking they were in line, that's why I asked about the micron going from large to small.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  gn7
					 
				 
				I run K&N and they have about a 15-20 micron rating. I am considering changing back to Wix.Nothing wrong with K&Ns NOW, but the company that makes them was bought by Fram, and they are starting to make some of the worse filter out there. K&Ns are still damn good filters, but I have to wonder for how long.  
I run 2 in parallel, so the oil is split between the 2 of them, mainly to lower the flow restriction. The filter mount to the oil cooler, and it uses 2 filters. More for the cooler than the fact that it uses 2 filters. 
   
			
		 
	 
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					  Originally Posted by  gn7
					 
				 
				Never ran a Fram, and never paid 20.00 for a filter. Even if every filter on the market was 25.00, I still wouldn't run a Fram. And I run two filters as well. I guess the idea of have a filter and engine failure is worth more than that to me. 
			
		 
	 
 I try to buy as much American stuff as I can too, I don't know how anyone runs their boat, I only know mine and I don't run it hard, the Mercruiser filters are three times more expensive as Frams,  
I've been using them in my boats for thirty years and have never had a failure due to the oil or filter, but I change my oil more frequently than most, I appreciate your passion, but like everything else in this world "to each his own"
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							Lets see, do we go with paper end caps, or metal? MMMmmmmm, that's a tough one!  
  
 
Pleat count, or total amount of filter media in the orange can Fram is kind of sad too.  
But hey, if you save 20 bucks a year, what the hell.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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