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You looking for turn-key, or some wrenching is ok?
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 Originally Posted by C-2
You looking for turn-key, or some wrenching is ok?
Depends on how much wrenching for the price. Keep talking.....
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Though I respect a quality v drive, my wife wouldn't go for the open engine/drive shaft with our young kids, and it takes quite a bit of room out of the boat. Need an open bow in this size range. Although I did find a hallett 240 closed bow that she didn't disqualify yet
But I think this time I'll stay in the 21' range for simplicity in towing, maneuverability, and fuel use.
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 Originally Posted by Ricks raft
Though I respect a quality v drive, my wife wouldn't go for the open engine/drive shaft with our young kids, and it takes quite a bit of room out of the boat. Need an open bow in this size range. Although I did find a hallett 240 closed bow that she didn't disqualify yet 
But I think this time I'll stay in the 21' range for simplicity in towing, maneuverability, and fuel use.
I missed the open bow part. At one time I was looking for a 21 open bow and they are hard to come by. There was a 21 Spectra open bow for sale a while back. I believe it was a jet with no motor.
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Don't think you mentioned what price range you wanted to stay in -- that makes a big difference. As for the 21 Eagle XP, I'd give it high marks overall, just a little less interior room due to the somewhat narrower beam than some of the others in that size range. Should be a 60ish boat with a good 350 mag. You can't go wrong with a Hallett 210 or even the Vector -- both great boats. Same for the 21 Schiada but you're probably going to pay quite a bit more. If you want to stay in the 21-foot range, keep your eye out for an older 21 Caliber 1 (Cliff put together some nice boats at one time) or the 21 Cobra is good too. If you happen to stumble on to an Eliminator 236 Eagle XP -- buy it! Has the same bottom (running surface) as the 250 Eagle XP (just no extended integrated/Euro swim platform) and is an exceptional step-vee hull (the steps are very small compared to later ventilated bottoms, but it works great).
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 Originally Posted by Havasuing
Don't think you mentioned what price range you wanted to stay in -- that makes a big difference. As for the 21 Eagle XP, I'd give it high marks overall, just a little less interior room due to the somewhat narrower beam than some of the others in that size range. Should be a 60ish boat with a good 350 mag. You can't go wrong with a Hallett 210 or even the Vector -- both great boats. Same for the 21 Schiada but you're probably going to pay quite a bit more. If you want to stay in the 21-foot range, keep your eye out for an older 21 Caliber 1 (Cliff put together some nice boats at one time) or the 21 Cobra is good too. If you happen to stumble on to an Eliminator 236 Eagle XP -- buy it! Has the same bottom (running surface) as the 250 Eagle XP (just no extended integrated/Euro swim platform) and is an exceptional step-vee hull (the steps are very small compared to later ventilated bottoms, but it works great).
Thanks, staying under $20k
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 Originally Posted by Ricks raft
Thanks, staying under $20k
I can't speak to the boats you've mentioned, never owned one. But I did own a 1986 21' Rogers with a 5.7OMC and I'll tell you this, I absolutely loved that boat. For its size it rode great. It also had (2) 35 gallon tanks, so I literally filled it up once or twice a season. One of the best boats I've ever owned. I think I paid $12K for it. But the joker who sold it forgot to tell me the drive had bad gears. Didn't find out until I really drove it good. So that was $3000-3500. But we used the boat for 3-5 years then sold it for $16K. Great boats, but hard to find now.
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 Originally Posted by Havasuing
Don't think you mentioned what price range you wanted to stay in -- that makes a big difference. As for the 21 Eagle XP, I'd give it high marks overall, just a little less interior room due to the somewhat narrower beam than some of the others in that size range. Should be a 60ish boat with a good 350 mag. You can't go wrong with a Hallett 210 or even the Vector -- both great boats. Same for the 21 Schiada but you're probably going to pay quite a bit more. If you want to stay in the 21-foot range, keep your eye out for an older 21 Caliber 1 (Cliff put together some nice boats at one time) or the 21 Cobra is good too. If you happen to stumble on to an Eliminator 236 Eagle XP -- buy it! Has the same bottom (running surface) as the 250 Eagle XP (just no extended integrated/Euro swim platform) and is an exceptional step-vee hull (the steps are very small compared to later ventilated bottoms, but it works great).
when you say older??? 1 see a few in my price range 2004-2006. I was under the impression caliber 1 was a big step down in quality from hallett, no? we all have opinions but from my expierence I would put hallett howard dcb schiada in the top tier of west coast boats, eliminator advantage essexx maybe a step down, ultra (I guess depending on who built/rigged it). then maybe commander caliber1. my criteria would be build quality, ride, functionality, resale value.
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 Originally Posted by Ricks raft
when you say older??? 1 see a few in my price range 2004-2006. I was under the impression caliber 1 was a big step down in quality from hallett, no? we all have opinions but from my expierence I would put hallett howard dcb schiada in the top tier of west coast boats, eliminator advantage essexx maybe a step down, ultra (I guess depending on who built/rigged it). then maybe commander caliber1. my criteria would be build quality, ride, functionality, resale value.
Personally I don't think I would say any of the boats you mentioned are a step down. Especially the first four.
True story. Back in the day I was in the Caliber1 showroom trying my best to work a deal on a beautiful 21' jet boat. Just couldn't get the numbers right and it was the absolute height of the market. I then went to Commander and couldn't get what I wanted there either. Both choices really had nothing to do with quality, meaning at the time I felt they were both the same caliber as any of the others. I ended up going with a used Rogers. Then a couple years later I ordered a brand new DCB 24' Extreme.
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On a side note, i don't understand people that are selling stuff! I've called and emailed multiple time also through boat trader on a couple of boats with no response. One is even a dealer/ manufacturer. If you want to sell something and you pay for an add why would you not respond???
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