Quote Originally Posted by JBS View Post
As someone who is forced by some of my customers to use Molds built in China I can tell you that they don't know shit about Steel or the hardening process. Have I gotten good molds from China. Yep in a few cases. Most though are not. As for Certs that's a total joke. They will cert anything you ask for.

I am dealing with a new program right now that involves 9 molds. 2 of these molds even in pictures are garbage. My Customer does not care. They just say run it. One of the molds has 4 Hydraulic cylinders on it that they swear are off the shelf components. They are not. They went as far a giving us the name of the Mfg. The Mfg. does exist but they tell me they did not make the cylinders. Asked for a serial number. I am still waiting.

China is garbage. They know what we don't know. That we are greedy and gullible and will accept their shit in hopes of saving a little. Their equivalent is not even close.
But never underestimate what bastards CAN DO. They are not the USSR, and we were "terrified" of them for years. They couldn't make a decent paper bag the bottom didn't fall out of. The Chinese are more than capable of reverse engineering, and manufacturing anything they like. Keep in mind, the computer you are posting from, and the phone you talk on the TV you watch all came from there. I don't know too meny people throwing there Iphone against the wall and yelling "this POS". Most are in line the day after the newest one comes out to be the first on the block with one.

But I never ever forget, that there is nothing that can't be made cheaper and shittier. And people willing to buy it. And they never forget it either.