Brucie, ask your trans guys why the Allison 643 in my moho heats oil FAST in second gear. Towing, when it drop to 2nd, the trans oil goes from 195 to 240 in minutes. I try to back off in second and get her into 3rd when the temp begins to drop and goes right back to 195 in 4th.
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08-20-2014, 05:56 PM #21Senior Member
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I'm going to check and see if the masters suggest a follow up change to get more of the original/conventional fluid out of the system, the converter itself holds a bunch of fluid in these bad boyz... I don't think its an issue but I will check and see what they say... The fluid manufacturers say its ok to mix but I will see if these guys have a different opinion...
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Will do Capn... Originally Posted by CampbellCarl
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It won't hurt anything. It's a step in the right direction and way better than the original oil at 100%. You won't hurt anything to run it that way, and next time you can change it the same way and have a higher ratio. The other option is to keep an eye out for transmission specials at the Allison dealer as they run them for a full flush and Transynd fill. I know some people who know some people in that field and will see what I can find out next time I talk to them. Originally Posted by Stainless
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You talking about WW Williams? That's where I bought the Transynd, good people! Yea, let me know if you hear anything. Originally Posted by jordy
It won't hurt anything. It's a step in the right direction and way better than the original oil at 100%. You won't hurt anything to run it that way, and next time you can change it the same way and have a higher ratio. The other option is to keep an eye out for transmission specials at the Allison dealer as they run them for a full flush and Transynd fill. I know some people who know some people in that field and will see what I can find out next time I talk to them.CH3NO2
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The FULL FLUSH is a good system and thoroughly purges the lines/cooler/converter where alot of the nasty stuff accumulates. Originally Posted by jordy
It won't hurt anything. It's a step in the right direction and way better than the original oil at 100%. You won't hurt anything to run it that way, and next time you can change it the same way and have a higher ratio. The other option is to keep an eye out for transmission specials at the Allison dealer as they run them for a full flush and Transynd fill. I know some people who know some people in that field and will see what I can find out next time I talk to them.
The guys that own the trans shop where I play around have REZNOR waste oil furnaces, they burn the trans oil and have a unlimited supply of heating oil...
As you can imagine, one trash truck holds about 20 gallons or more... THey are next door neighbors to the big St Louis REPUBLIC/Waste Mgmt/BFI landfill and have a steady stream of bench jobs coming in, they are pushing back on the "pull outs" since they are getting older...
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That'd be them. I don't know anyone in the Tucson office anymore, I don't think, but still get an employee discount out of the Phoenix shop. Originally Posted by Stainless
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09-18-2014, 05:19 AM #27Already miss the 310/562
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As per YODA, there is an adjustable lock up valve/modulator (AKA "clicker dicker" Originally Posted by CampbellCarl
) that controls where your converter locks up. SOme applications are set up to lock the converter at/in different shifts (works off the line pressure and is adjustable).
As we all know, a converter that isn't in lockup OR in the case of towing, possibly not in lock up AND not in fluid coupling (slipping) you will get LOTS-O-HEAT.
The adjustable lock up of the converter is set differently depending on the application of the transmission. As per YODA most of the time this trans is set to lock up at the same time as your 1-2 shift but it could be different in a moho.
If this heating is something you have been seeing for a long time I would guess that all is OK and when you are towing in 2nd your converter isn't locked and the slippage is heating the fluid. WHen the converter gets to the point of "fluid coupling" the heating effect of the oil goes way way down. (think of driving a drag car on the street that has a high stall converter, they get HOT).....
No way of knowing for sure what your lock up is set for in your moho, the manufacturer may be able to tell you that. It's a possibility that you have a set of clutches slipping but you would see this getting worse and worse over time I would think.
Sorry for the delayed answer big feller...
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Great transmission!
I was a little overkill with my 6 speed 1000. I'd change the fluid every 30k, Wix external spin on filter every oil change, and drop the pan to swap internal filter (also Wix) at every 50k. I'm one of those guys that you want to buy something used from!
My truck was lifted, tuned and got some serious use. I never had any transmission issues and never noticed enough debris on the magnet to worry over. I sent trans fluid and oil samples to the lab yearly for analysis.
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Better to OVERkill than UNDERkill IMHO... Originally Posted by niceguyeddie
Great transmission!
I was a little overkill with my 6 speed 1000. I'd change the fluid every 30k, Wix external spin on filter every oil change, and drop the pan to swap internal filter (also Wix) at every 50k. I'm one of those guys that you want to buy something used from!
My truck was lifted, tuned and got some serious use. I never had any transmission issues and never noticed enough debris on the magnet to worry over. I sent trans fluid and oil samples to the lab yearly for analysis.
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I have a 3000 series Allison in my motorhome. When I changed the trans fluid in my motorhome I went on Allison's website and Mobil 1 Delvac synthetic trans fluid was on their approved list. I had also heard to only use the Transynd. I called Allison and spoke to a tech guy and he said use either Transynd or the Mobil 1. Anyone heard of any problems using Mobil 1?
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