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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
    I built the gun, THEN changed the caliber a few times, THEN built the ammo... The 300AAC is kind of new on the scene...
    Built the ammo? Why not just buy it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    Built the ammo? Why not just buy it?

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    When I started this project the 300AAC ammo wasnt available in the stores and the load data was very very limited. It wasnt SAAMI approved until this past Spring I think...

    I blew the gun up once with some of my initial loads... It's just a science project...

    Some lite reading: http://300aacblackout.com/


    Introducing the Advanced Armament Corp. 300 AAC Blackout (300BLK). This system was developed to launch 30 caliber projectiles from the AR platform without a reduction in magazine capacity and compatible with the standard bolt.

    Full power 115-125 grain ammunition matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, and eclipses 5.56mm with much higher-mass projectiles for a more dramatic effect on the target. Or choose subsonic cartridges for optimal use with a sound suppressor - 220 grain Sierra OTM (open-tip match) bullets vastly outperforms a 9mm MP5-SD in penetration and long range accuracy.


    DESIGN OBJECTIVES
    • Create a reliable compact 30-cal solution for the AR platform
    • Utilize existing inventory magazines while retaining their full capacity
    • Create the optimal platform for sound and flash suppressed fire
    • Create compatible supersonic ammo that matches 7.62x39 ballistics
    • Provide the ability to penetrate barriers with high-mass projectiles
    • Provide all capabilities in a lightweight, durable, low recoiling package

    REASONS 7.62x39 wAS NOT CONSIDERED
    Extreme cartridge taper
    • Reduces reliability of feeding in AR Magazines
    • Reduces Magazine capacity
    • Cartridge taper induces considerably higher bolt thrust-
    exacerbating the AR Bolt's weaknesses
    • Requires a larger Bolt Face which reduces Bolt Locking Lug strength-
    exacerbating the AR Bolt's weaknesses
    Limited projectile selection
    • 0.311" diameter not a common option in most modern bullets
    Last edited by 2manymustangs; 01-05-2014 at 08:32 PM.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
    When I started this project the 300AAC ammo wasnt available in the stores and the load data was very very limited. It wasnt SAAMI approved until this past Spring I think...




    Some lite reading: http://300aacblackout.com/


    Introducing the Advanced Armament Corp. 300 AAC Blackout (300BLK). This system was developed to launch 30 caliber projectiles from the AR platform without a reduction in magazine capacity and compatible with the standard bolt.

    Full power 115-125 grain ammunition matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, and eclipses 5.56mm with much higher-mass projectiles for a more dramatic effect on the target. Or choose subsonic cartridges for optimal use with a sound suppressor - 220 grain Sierra OTM (open-tip match) bullets vastly outperforms a 9mm MP5-SD in penetration and long range accuracy.


    DESIGN OBJECTIVES
    • Create a reliable compact 30-cal solution for the AR platform
    • Utilize existing inventory magazines while retaining their full capacity
    • Create the optimal platform for sound and flash suppressed fire
    • Create compatible supersonic ammo that matches 7.62x39 ballistics
    • Provide the ability to penetrate barriers with high-mass projectiles
    • Provide all capabilities in a lightweight, durable, low recoiling package

    REASONS 7.62x39 wAS NOT CONSIDERED
    Extreme cartridge taper
    • Reduces reliability of feeding in AR Magazines
    • Reduces Magazine capacity
    • Cartridge taper induces considerably higher bolt thrust-
    exacerbating the AR Bolt's weaknesses
    • Requires a larger Bolt Face which reduces Bolt Locking Lug strength-
    exacerbating the AR Bolt's weaknesses
    Limited projectile selection
    • 0.311" diameter not a common option in most modern bullets
    This is soooo far over my head...just don't test me...please


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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
    When I started this project the 300AAC ammo wasnt available in the stores and the load data was very very limited. It wasnt SAAMI approved until this past Spring I think...

    I blew the gun up once with some of my initial loads... It's just a science project...

    Some lite reading: http://300aacblackout.com/


    Introducing the Advanced Armament Corp. 300 AAC Blackout (300BLK). This system was developed to launch 30 caliber projectiles from the AR platform without a reduction in magazine capacity and compatible with the standard bolt.

    Full power 115-125 grain ammunition matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, and eclipses 5.56mm with much higher-mass projectiles for a more dramatic effect on the target. Or choose subsonic cartridges for optimal use with a sound suppressor - 220 grain Sierra OTM (open-tip match) bullets vastly outperforms a 9mm MP5-SD in penetration and long range accuracy.


    DESIGN OBJECTIVES
    • Create a reliable compact 30-cal solution for the AR platform
    • Utilize existing inventory magazines while retaining their full capacity
    • Create the optimal platform for sound and flash suppressed fire
    • Create compatible supersonic ammo that matches 7.62x39 ballistics
    • Provide the ability to penetrate barriers with high-mass projectiles
    • Provide all capabilities in a lightweight, durable, low recoiling package

    REASONS 7.62x39 wAS NOT CONSIDERED
    Extreme cartridge taper
    • Reduces reliability of feeding in AR Magazines
    • Reduces Magazine capacity
    • Cartridge taper induces considerably higher bolt thrust-
    exacerbating the AR Bolt's weaknesses
    • Requires a larger Bolt Face which reduces Bolt Locking Lug strength-
    exacerbating the AR Bolt's weaknesses
    Limited projectile selection
    • 0.311" diameter not a common option in most modern bullets
    Cool stuff but I hate hard to find ammo stuff. I'll just stick with easy to get .556.


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    Quote Originally Posted by djunkie View Post
    Cool stuff but I hate hard to find ammo stuff. I'll just stick with easy to get .556.


    Or this for my Big Bang fix.
    Hey Dave,

    I know this is like asking "How high is up" but....................how much would you think it would cost me to build a rather standard run of the mill 5.56 AR? With some of the more desirable options not just "plain Jane" mil-spec??

    Been thinking of building one but the local guys have a Colt for $850 and was wondering if I should go with that or build.......whatdoyathink??

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    I just crank out my own 300BLK now, its a great round for deer hunting... I purchased about 5000 pieces of brass from Brad's Warehouse... I crank out 200 or so when I get bored on conference bridges for work...

    I REALLLLLY like the AR10s in 7.62 NATO, bad mofos... VERY nice piece there DJ...

    I do have several set up for 5.56 NATO...

    My two faves, an A1 replica that has original light barrel and all original furnature/sling/bipod
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    You probably know who this Armalite came from but I will keep it a secret... as promised...
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    Last edited by 2manymustangs; 01-05-2014 at 08:55 PM.
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    "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." John Adams

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    This thread turned into gun porn! Love it!


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  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
    I just crank out my own 300BLK now, its a great round for deer hunting... I purchased about 5000 pieces of brass from Brad's Warehouse... I crank out 200 or so when I get bored on conference bridges for work...

    I REALLLLLY like the AR10s in 7.62 NATO, bad mofos... VERY nice piece there DJ...

    I do have several set up for 5.56 NATO...

    My two faves, an A1 replica that has original light barrel and all original furnature/sling/bipod
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    You probably know who this Armalite came from but I will keep it a secret... as promised...
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    I put one together for my dad with an old colt upper like that one above. Triangle handguards and all. But I put a collapsible stock on it just cause I had one laying around. It's in the pics that Eli posted. It's got an original colt 3x scope on that carry handle too. Cool piece that shoots pretty well.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by djunkie View Post
    I put one together for my dad with an old colt upper like that one above. Triangle handguards and all. But I put a collapsible stock on it just cause I had one laying around. It's in the pics that Eli posted. It's got an original colt 3x scope on that carry handle too. Cool piece that shoots pretty well.







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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul65K View Post
    Hey Dave,

    I know this is like asking "How high is up" but....................how much would you think it would cost me to build a rather standard run of the mill 5.56 AR? With some of the more desirable options not just "plain Jane" mil-spec??

    Been thinking of building one but the local guys have a Colt for $850 and was wondering if I should go with that or build.......whatdoyathink??
    Unless you want to have a different stock or different type of handguards I'd just buy that Colt. That's not a bad deal. I could probably build you one for a little cheaper but it won't be a Colt. Now if you want it like mine with the longer handguard, magpul stock, custom trigger etc, it's probably better to build one.

 

 

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