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					  Originally Posted by  GRADS
					 
				 
				Boat builders......stay focused. 
			
		 
	 
 Try to stay focused on your own thread Grads, YOU were the one that used the word RECESSION in your thread.  
What the flock do you figure created the down turn in boat sales, launch ramp fees? 
 
So lets talk about the company names that took a shit, but not the who, or the why, so as to not offend anyone. As we all KNOW, any company that folded was just a victim of the economy, and none were due to a greedy, crooked dealer, shitty product, or anything even remotely like that. I can't think of a single boat company that was in business to launder money. Not a one. 
 
If they aren't today, they either weren't there before the boom, and if the name was there, the owner that shut it down was the original owner. 
 
I cannot think of a single company off hand that folded DUE to the recession, that was there before say 1995, and under the original owner. 
We aren't talking about the Detroit Big 3 here people. There were some in the business that their demise is a GOOD THING!  
Why do people tend to think that the boat builders that closed isn't a good thing? Who the hell is gone that you personally would like to see have  survived the quote unquote "recession"  NAME ME ONE!
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  gn7
					 
				 
				Try to stay focused on your own thread Grads, YOU were the one that used the word RECESSION in your thread.  
What the flock do you figure created the down turn in boat sales, launch ramp fees? 
 
So lets talk about the company names that took a shit, but not the who, or the why, so as to not offend anyone. As we all KNOW, any company that folded was just a victim of the economy, and none were due to a greedy, crooked dealer, shitty product, or anything even remotely like that. I can't think of a single boat company that was in business to launder money. Not a one. 
 
If they aren't today, they either weren't there before the boom, and if the name was there, the owner that shut it down was the original owner. 
 
I cannot think of a single company off hand that folded DUE to the recession, that was there before say 1995, and under the original owner. 
 
Why do people tend to think that the boat builders that closed isn't a good thing? Who the hell is gone that you personally would like to see have  survived the quote unquote "recession"  NAME ME ONE! 
			
		 
	 
 Why talk about who's NOT here?  Not like anyone is going to run out and try and buy a boat from them.  Why not talk about who weathered the storm?  I can be just as negative as the next guy, but I honestly do prefer to look at the glass as half full.  Otherwise whats the point? 
 
Its 2014.  1995 was 100 years ago and it'll never come back.  Much like the wild wild west  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Hotboat
					 
				 
				Why talk about who's NOT here?  Not like anyone is going to run out and try and buy a boat from them.  Why not talk about who weathered the storm?  I can be just as negative as the next guy, but I honestly do prefer to look at the glass as half full.  Otherwise whats the point? 
Its 2014.  1995 was 100 years ago and it'll never come back.  Much like the wild wild west    
			
		 
	 
 Whats to talk about? They were there LOOOONG before, and they are still there today. So?  
You guys are trying to tie the economy into who and who isn't. The who IS has nothing to with the economy, and the who ISN'T has everything to do with it. Is that some mystery?  
You can say the same thing about dozens of industries and businesses, and for the very same reasons. 
 
 
"Those that fail to to learn from history are doomed to repeat it" 
George Santayana 
 
Shut your eyes tight enough Vic, and it all becomes  Kumbaya and Utopia.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  gn7
					 
				 
				Whats to talk about? They were there LOOOONG before, and they are still there today. So?  
You guys are trying to tie the economy into who and who isn't. The who IS has nothing to with the economy, and the who ISN'T has everything to do with it. Is that some mystery?  
You can say the same thing about dozens of industries and businesses, and for the very same reasons. 
			
		 
	 
 Us guys?  No sir, just me here.  Am I trying to tie the economy in to who's still here and who's gone?  Not necessarily.  But like we both said earlier, the housing boom definitely spawned several new boat builders who are no longer here.  All I'm saying is why talk about them if they're gone, that's all.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Hotboat
					 
				 
				Us guys?  No sir, just me here.  Am I trying to tie the economy in to who's still here and who's gone?  Not necessarily.  But like we both said earlier, the housing boom definitely spawned several new boat builders who are no longer here.  All I'm saying is why talk about them if they're gone, that's all. 
			
		 
	 
 ALL of who, to the man, had NO business being in the business, was in it for the sake of "opportunity", left when the money dried up, and moved to something else. Probably buying up foreclosures. 
There is too sides to the industry, but lets only talk about the good side. Makes for better more pleasing discussion. For the sake of dipshits that bought boats for these people, lets not discuss the boats they made, so as not to offend anybody.   
Like I said, its a stupid thread. Of course it is, look who started the flipping thing.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  gn7
					 
				 
				ALL of who, to the man, had NO business being in the business, was in it for the sake of "opportunity", left when the money dried up, and moved to something else. Probably buying up foreclosures. 
There is too sides to the industry, but lets only talk about the good side. Makes for better more pleasing discussion. For the sake of dipshits that bought boats for these people, lets not discuss the boats they made, so as not to offend anybody.   
Like I said, its a stupid thread. Of course it is, look who started the flipping thing. 
			
		 
	 
 I thought we weren't going to talk about them? 
 
Did you read my business banker dinner post in the other thread?  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Hotboat
					 
				 
				I thought we weren't going to talk about them? 
Did you read my business banker dinner post in the other thread?    
			
		 
	 
 No I didn't see it.  
I won't talk about them. Take some advice, tell you friends considering buying a used boat, to consider if the company is still in business, and if its the original owner or at least  one that weathered the storm. because we can't discuss the defunct companies here and the WHYs. Because we sure can't discuss on here if a potential purchase is considered. We could offend a member that was stupid enough to have bought one already.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  gn7
					 
				 
				Like I said, its the best thread ever. Of course it is, look who started the flipping thing. 
			
		 
	 
  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  GRADS
					 
				 
				
			
		 
	 
 Isn't there a rule on this site about changing somebodies post when you quote it. Or do you have special swingers only privileges.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  gn7
					 
				 
				Isn't there a rule on this site about how awesome one person can be, because Grads is breaking all the rules. 
			
		 
	 
 Thanks man.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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