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							My house caught on fire when I was 10 and they saved us! They can do what ever the fuck they want. I have no problems with my tax dollars keeping them fed, safe and happy!    
 
When you start running into burning buildings to rescue people and pets, let's have this conversation again.    
 
 
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				My house caught on fire when I was 10 and they saved us! They can do what ever the fuck they want. I have no problems with my tax dollars keeping them fed, safe and happy!    
When you start running into burning buildings to rescue people and pets, let's have this conversation again.    
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 I can't believe we don't have any Fire Fighters on the board......   They do what they do because none of are willing to what they do....  They are the ones running into the burning building when the regular folks like us are running out crying like babies!  I understand a Fire engine isn't the most economical ride to the market but it's just the way it is.....
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Jefftowz
					 
				 
				I can't believe we don't have any Fire Fighters on the board......   They do what they do because none of are willing to what they do....  They are the ones running into the burning building when the regular folks like us are running out crying like babies!  I understand a Fire engine isn't the most economical ride to the market but it's just the way it is..... 
			
		 
	 
 "It's just the way it is"? You've got to be kidding me. If more people thought like you women still wouldn't be allowed to vote and blacks wouldn't be able to own property. 
 
Like you said, it's not economical so lets change it.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  Eli
					 
				 
				My house caught on fire when I was 10 and they saved us! They can do what ever the fuck they want. I have no problems with my tax dollars keeping them fed, safe and happy!    
When you start running into burning buildings to rescue people and pets, let's have this conversation again.    
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 How often are there fires? I'm trying to use logic here. Not personal experiences and emotion. That's what is wrong with the system now.  
 
If you wanted to get into a battle about them earning their pay because they're brave.... then please tell me why we pay our Military dog shit.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  niceguyeddie
					 
				 
				How often are there fires? I'm trying to use logic here. Not personal experiences and emotion. That's what is wrong with the system now.  
 
If you wanted to get into a battle about them earning their pay because they're brave.... then please tell me why we pay our Military dog shit. 
			
		 
	 
 I agree we need to increase the military pay too.  If they got a pay increase...I wouldn't complain about that either.  
 
It's not about how often there is a fire...it's about your loved one being stuck on the other side of a blazing inferno while we wait for the firemen to drive back from the grocery store with the economical car to get the fire truck. As logic will have it, a fire burns very quickly, it's life or death...sometimes within seconds.   
 
I understand your point that it's not economical; however, economics isn't the only thing we should think about. You'd be surprised how much money people are willing to rightfully throw away to save one person's life.   
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Eli
					 
				 
				I agree we need to increase the military pay too.  If they got a pay increase...I wouldn't complain about that either.  
 
It's not about how often there is a fire...it's about your loved one being stuck on the other side of a blazing inferno while we wait for the firemen to drive back from the grocery store with the economical car to get the fire truck. As logic will have it, a fire burns very quickly, it's life or death...sometimes within seconds.   
 
I understand your point that it's not economical; however, economics isn't the only thing we should think about. You'd be surprised how much money people are willing to rightfully throw away to save one person's life.   
 
 
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 While I agree the military gets paid dog shit, I'd push for ending the Military Industrial Complex so that we wouldn't have the issue of underpaid soldiers in the first place. Not push to spend more money on never ending wars that we already can't afford.  
 
Ok police officers face more danger than fire fighters on a regular basis? Should they be getting raises too?  
 
I understand fire fighters do strenuous work. Just think of a forest fire. That's fucking intense. But then again, so is being a carpenter everyday. When you see a private company doing road work just know that these guys sweating their asses off all day get paid less than the Cal-Trans guy you see standing around babysitting people picking up trash. If the government workers got paid what they actually deserved, our state wouldn't be bankrupt.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  niceguyeddie
					 
				 
				While I agree the military gets paid dog shit, I'd push for ending the Military Industrial Complex so that we wouldn't have the issue of underpaid soldiers in the first place. Not push to spend more money on never ending wars that we already can't afford.  
 
Ok police officers face more danger than fire fighters on a regular basis? Should they be getting raises too?  
 
I understand fire fighters do strenuous work. Just think of a forest fire. That's fucking intense. But then again, so is being a carpenter everyday. When you see a private company doing road work just know that these guys sweating their asses off all day get paid less than the Cal-Trans guy you see standing around babysitting people picking up trash. If the government workers got paid what they actually deserved, our state wouldn't be bankrupt. 
			
		 
	 
 While intelligible, your argument is bootstrapped. If you'd like to discuss firefighters driving their truck to the grocery store, great. But, dragging in examples of other professions, only delineates numerous complex problems. My political, social and economic discussions on a board are limited to I LOVE FIREFIGHTERS!     
 
 
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							Let's have a education lesson . 
Firefighter work 24 hours a day. If they need to get food they go as a crew. In SoCal it is rarely 1 to 2 guys more like 3 to 4 in a crew. If you look at their waste band the usually have a radio. They are on call for any emergency that come s in there district. There is no city in Southern California that pays for the guys food it comes out of their own pocket. 
 
Every emergency has a different response level requiring a different number of personnel. Every city decides on what that number is. A full arrest takes a lot of man power to make sure compressions , ventilations , intubation , and drugs are administered . Hard to write on a boating forum of everything that goes on. Just be happy you live where you have a very high quality fire department.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							Where's the fuckin political section??
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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				Where's the fuckin political section?? 
			
		 
	 
 Its over at rd's place, we don't have one here  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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