Honestly, Karma has taken it's path through the old hot boat forums. Not too much to tell anymore. Like so many things, it will never be the same. But so many laughs over the years! Technology has costs sites like this. People are onto FB and other media. Laughable when a fee had dreams of building something worth advertisers attention so it might be sold in the future for "millions." Sadly, the reality was (and now much lesser so) these were mostly good folks getting together for real time boating fun. The few attempting to make something more out of it got what they put into it. Man I met some awesome people off the old Hotboat.