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    WESTERNAERO
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    I don't know Jerry, maybe it's just me, but I don't find this stuff that difficult to understand. I would like to see some basic principals laid out as rules to start with. There's fine tuning with everything I just don't understand why the basics can't be said.
    That 1" per foot of hull that Bob Teague told me sure isn't that hard to understand. It's funny that he was the only one who said that though after asking multiple people for a couple months. After asking a few why on my boat the strut should be 20-23"'s I never got a definitive answer as to why. It was always, well that's what everyone says or does. Come on man, LOL, that's just craziness. You've put up some really good history of these old boats, it's a very nice little library you've made here. So why can we have a library of info on how these things actually work, and work right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO View Post
    Bob you do know why I started these, you're correct. I'm not really asking for myself, but it would be nice to have a place to that's loaded with information that some young guy with his first v-drive could go and learn. You see it all the time on these forums. Some kid goes out and buys a 1968 Stevens, comes on the forums and says he going to put a 1000 HP in it, and then gets told by 10 different people it'll never work. No explanation as to why it won't work, no logical explanation how it should be, just a bunch of guys telling him "NO". So whats the kid do? Sells the boat and goes out and buys a jet boat or some wave maker.
    These old vdrives are the hot rods of the water. If that same kid were to buy an old camaro and go on a hot rod forum and announce that he was going to 4-link the thing, he wouldn't get blasted by the members. He would have 10 people with good knowledge helping as much as they could.
    Lets face it, the gentlemen "in the know" with rigging these things aren't getting any younger. So why not create a place that's filled with as much info as possible. Seriously how hard is it to explain this stuff, be it general rules that apply to most flattys or cruisers down to in-depth info on setting a beismeyer for SS class racing?
    Thanks Wannabe, that was a nice little read.
    Couple of times, over on PB somebody asked why there were no books or a manual or something that explained how to build and set up a v drive. And the answer was pretty much agreed, you just can't. Imagine how many of the v drives were build in garages in the 60s. I had two uncles that did it. I asked Rudy what the most common type sale he had in the 60s and it was overwhelming, Stage II, just a strut and fin with shaft and rudder holes. And they ALL got built and finished the same way. By asking questions of those that did it. They SHARED info just as today. They went to the races and looked to see how others were doing things. No manual or book, even in the hey day of V drives. Of course they didn't usually start out pissing people off to start with. I guess everybody has their methods.

    Consider this Westernaero, OG is not only NOT interested in what others have to say, he's not all that interested in helping others as well. He posts long list of pictures like its his personal online photo album, and but not a word about what's being done, or used in the build.
    I have never done a "build thread" and not sure I ever would. But would you really want to see a thread of me tearing down a junk yard 427 truck engine and sending it off to the machine shop and nothing written? I can do that if you think it would be helpful.
    Last edited by gn7; 02-03-2014 at 11:33 AM.

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    WESTERNAERO
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Couple of times, over on PB somebody asked why there were no books or a manual or something that explained how to build and set up a v drive. And the answer was pretty much agreed, you just can't. Imagine how many of the v drives were build in garages in the 60s. I had two uncles that did it. I asked Rudy what the most common type sale he had in the 60s and it was overwhelming, Stage II, just a strut and fin with shaft and rudder holes. And they ALL got built and finished the same way. By asking questions of those that did it. They SHARED info just as today. They went to the races and looked to see how others were doing things. No manual or book, even in the hey day of V drives. Of course they didn't usually start out pissing people off to start with. I guess everybody has their methods.

    Consider this Westernaero, OG is not only NOT interested in what others have to say, he's not all that interested in helping others as well. He posts long list of pictures like its his personal online photo album, and but not a word about what's being done, or used in the build.
    I have never done a "build thread" and not sure I ever would. But would you really want to see a thread of me tearing down a junk yard 427 truck engine and sending it off to the machine shop and nothing written? I can do that if you think it would be helpful.
    Bob, I didn't start this because I was defending OG in any way. I started this because SnoC was telling OG about his strut angles and engine height and what not. But he didn't explain WHY he was telling him those things. I think Snoc was actually trying to give him some sound advise but OG doesn't understand. Does he want to understand, I don't know, but why not throw some basics out there for him to understand why he should know.

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