Most of the ones I had were from HD, ecosmart. I replaced several of them after a few years. The PAR30 that go in recessed took 3-4 minutes to get bright. Had backyard spots that took even longer, so long the dog could piss and shit and be done well before they lit the yard.
But as I said before, the light from LED's is so much better than any florescent can provide.
From my POS T-mobile thingie
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