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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    I'll pick some up...where do you buy it?




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    Try a police equipment store, I here the version police use is stronger than what you can buy at a general store.


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  2. #12
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    Glad you guys are OK. I don't own a gun. But I do own one of these



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    Lowlife piles of shit, your house is your castle and they take that safe feeling away. Shotguns are great along with a 45 I.M.O.

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    Look where most of the crime is, where's there gun control, in Chicago and New York there's gun control and that's where all the crime is, WTF, give me my 357 S/W.

  5. #15
    Pepper spray is a defensive weapon and a distraction at best. It often times will effect the operator as well when used in close quarters. You wouldn't want to be spraying it at an attacker in your house, chances are you yourself will become overwhelmed.

    Get a gun and learn to become proficient with it. Practice will build confidence. I don't own weapons because I want to be fucked with, I own them so I am left alone.

    This is a good read...

    "Why the gun is civilization"

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation…and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

  6. #16
    Shotguns are better than handguns for noise purposes alone. Rack that gun and watch them run......unless they're on drugs. Hopefully the slide on my Glock will be enough as well to get them going. The revolver will need to use the bullets.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by 314joey View Post
    Exactly why I keep a loaded 357 under my bed, too many dirty fockers, glad everything turned out OK.
    This and a couple dogs give me a bit of piece of mind at night.

  8. #18
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    Very scary and I'm glad you are all ok. I walked in the front door of my house when I was 8 months pregnant to robbers fleeing out the back sliding door. I was scared to death and alone. They took a lot of stuff and thrashed the place. It is not a good feeling at all.

  9. #19
    I agree, having a dog makes your home more work to rob, and their presence is always there when you are away. If you take them with you and someone cleans you out , that's what insurance is for. Material things can be replacedName:  PICT0022.jpg
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    Lol, I just solved a mystery. I can't open this thread on my work PC. Anyone take a guess why?


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