Lets Talk Batteries

[ChumpChange]

Are those the same size as Interstates? Or will I need new battery boxes?

Mike at Battery Sales will know.

So how many companies do you figure are making batteries in this country today?

Quite a few, including the one I mentioned.

[gn7]

Really? Same battery?

Same battery. Been using them since 2002, replacing them every 3 years because we can't afford to have one fail. Usually take the old out of the boat and cycle it into a road vehicle. and replace it with the next one out of the boat. Failed one battery inside that 3 years and luckily that was in the pits between races. Can't remember exactly what Interstate gave me for a pro rate, but I wasn't disappointed.
Sometimes the batteries have "INTERSTATE" on them, some times they are "OPTIMA" But when it comes to a warranty, I will deal with a Interstate dealer any time over a Optima dealer.
GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE:
LINK: Interstate Batteries

Mike at Battery Sales will know.



Quite a few, including the one I mentioned.

Anything I can count on two hands and have fingers left over, I don't consider quite a few. There in only ONE lead smelter in the entire United States, and only one battery company using 100% virgin lead in their batteries, and it NOT Lifeline. They are the ONLY company supply the United States government and military with critical power, UPS batteries. And they do make a car/boat battery.

Every other battery company in the country uses mixture of virgin and recycled lead or 100% recycled lead, that they get from the same company. Not that its bad. Interstate batteries, including their AGMs and as well as Optimas and LIFELINE, all use the same lead supplier, and their batteries work just fine.
But there are not that many companies making batteries for car, boats and trucks. Far less than you would think. Far less than there was. Its the ECOLOGY issue

The name of that company is Enersys, and they make car, boat batteries under the name Odyssey. I don't use them because I like dealing with my Interstate dealer and they haven't let me down yet.

[Bobby V]

Same battery. Been using them since 2002, replacing them every 3 years because we can't afford to have one fail. Usually take the old out of the boat and cycle it into a road vehicle. and replace it with the next one out of the boat. Failed one battery inside that 3 years and luckily that was in the pits between races. Can't remember exactly what Interstate gave me for a pro rate, but I wasn't disappointed.
Sometimes the batteries have "INTERSTATE" on them, some times they are "OPTIMA" But when it comes to a warranty, I will deal with a Interstate dealer any time over a Optima dealer.
GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE:
LINK: Interstate Batteries


Anything I can count on two hands and have fingers left over, I don't consider quite a few. There in only ONE lead smelter in the entire United States, and only one battery company using 100% virgin lead in their batteries, and it NOT Lifeline. They are the ONLY company supply the United States government and military with critical power, UPS batteries. And they do make a car/boat battery.

Every other battery company in the country uses mixture of virgin and recycled lead or 100% recycled lead, that they get from the same company. Not that its bad. Interstate batteries, including their AGMs and as well as Optimas and LIFELINE, all use the same lead supplier, and their batteries work just fine.
But there are not that many companies making batteries for car, boats and trucks. Far less than you would think. Far less than there was. Its the ECOLOGY issue

The name of that company is Enersys, and they make car, boat batteries under the name Odyssey. I don't use them because I like dealing with my Interstate dealer and they haven't let me down yet.

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Only one lead smelter. What about Exides lead smelter in Vernon, Ca. Yes they are having some legal issues. They owe my company 20k. But they are hoping to work things out soon. I hope.

[ChumpChange]

They are the ONLY company supply the United States government and military with critical power, UPS batteries. And they do make a car/boat battery.

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The name of that company is Enersys, and they make car, boat batteries under the name Odyssey. I don't use them because I like dealing with my Interstate dealer and they haven't let me down yet.

lol. You shouldn't use absolutes. They are not the ONLY one.

[gn7]

Melting aluminum in a foundry DOES NOT make you a aluminum producer. It means you have the capability of melting aluminum, and pouring it.
Edelbrock, or American Wheels, or Buddy Bar casting, or any other FOUNDRY, NEVER made on ounce of aluminum, they melt it and pour it. They do not refine it.
I can pour aluminum in my back yard and have over charcoal with a blower, melting aluminum cans.
'If I gave you 10,000 and year, and supplied you the bauxite, you couldn't produce me a single pound of aluminum. Very few companies can.
Steel mills are NOT steel producers. They DO NOT need a blast furnace to MILL STEEL
Lead "milling" is no different. Do you see the difference??

Melting and forming lead plate DOES NOT, make you a smelter. There is NO lead Smelting plant in Vernon!!!!!
That's as crazy as saying there is a steel blast furnace in downdown Los Anegles.
There is NO company in Vernon or anywhere else in Calif taking this shit and making batteries!!!


Is there POSSIBLY some tiny ass company out there smelting a few thousand pounds of lead? Possibly, but I doubt it, and NO battery company is depending on them to supply them with the MILLIONS of TONS of lead they need every year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_Run_Company

[gn7]

This a video of Enersys/ Odyssey making batteries.

NOWHERE IN THIS VIDEO ARE THEY SMELTING LEAD!!!
Ever hear of East Penn Batteries?? NO? Chances are you have bought one and never knew it. One of the largest and oldest manufactures of lead acid car batteries in the country!! NEVER SMELTED A SINGLE OUNCE OF LEAD!!!
This is the same basic process every beattery company in the country uses when producing a battery. Making a battery DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO SMELT LEAD!!, any more than it requires you to mine it!!!
I guess next somebody is going to tell me that Exide mines their fucking lead as well. Probably in Compton or Inglewood!!

[Bobby V]

Melting aluminum in a foundry DOES NOT make you a aluminum producer. It means you have the capability of melting aluminum, and pouring it.
Edelbrock, or American Wheels, or Buddy Bar casting, or any other FOUNDRY, NEVER made on ounce of aluminum, they melt it and pour it. They do not refine it.
I can pour aluminum in my back yard and have over charcoal with a blower, melting aluminum cans.
'If I gave you 10,000 and year, and supplied you the bauxite, you couldn't produce me a single pound of aluminum. Very few companies can.
Steel mills are NOT steel producers. They DO NOT need a blast furnace to MILL STEEL
Lead "milling" is no different. Do you see the difference??

Melting and forming lead plate DOES NOT, make you a smelter. There is NO lead Smelting plant in Vernon!!!!!
That's as crazy as saying there is a steel blast furnace in downdown Los Anegles.
There is NO company in Vernon or anywhere else in Calif taking this shit and making batteries!!!


Is there POSSIBLY some tiny ass company out there smelting a few thousand pounds of lead? Possibly, but I doubt it, and NO battery company is depending on them to supply them with the MILLIONS of TONS of lead they need every year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_Run_Company

Oh Really....

http://www.recyclingtoday.com/exide-...ompliance.aspx

[gn7]

lol. You shouldn't use absolutes. They are not the ONLY one.

You are correct, Exide does supply some critical use UPS batteries for the US government.
It would have been more correct to say that all the lead for US government critical use UPS batteries comes from ONE supplier. EXIDE doesn't smelt virgin lead!!!
The US government specifications for ALL CRITICAL USE UPS batteries requires all of them to get the lead from the same supplier. There is just no getting around it.

It would have been more correct to say that ONE company is the supplier of the lead that goes into ALL CRITICAL USE UPS batteries for the US government, And that company is Doe Run AKA Enersys AKA Odyssey.
If you know of another company smelting 99.9% pure virgin lead, I love to hear about it, because as far as I know, Doe Run has a head lock on the lead industry in this country.
While you listing ALL those lead mining/smelting plants, maybe you could list all the companies that refine bauxite to pure virgin aluminum as well. If you think pure virgin lead or aluminum isn't a big deal, ask yourself if you want you next set of $1000.00 2618 pistons, or Dart or Brodix heads made of beer cans, melted frying pans and recycled car wheels.

[Unforgiven]

We use to run OPTIMA's in the Warlock then the Eliminator..but when we rerigged the Eliminator, we picked Odyssey's..2 BIG MOFO's installed under the backseat so we could access..The first set of OPTIMAS worked great for 5 years years..when we replaced with new set..the second set sucked...When we sold the Warlock, the new owner got 4 Optimas in the deal..we took 2 back to NAPA and they replaced no questions asked..It's a roll of the dice with the Blue Tops..reds and yellows seem to last quite a while...