ok, so here was the objective....I want a smaller motorhome...26' wife wants a sofa and a dinette...since I don't have any friends, and don't want to have sleep overs in my motorhome..(wifes a screamer) people tink I'm hurting her...lol... so the smallest I could find with 2 roof ac's was the 29 fr3, it meeeeeasures 30'9'' total length..so alittle less than 4' shorter...but... not knocking the fr3... but the quality of it is no where near the alpine... now add folding up the bed and all that stuff in it makes it a real cramper..so we looked at the 30 ds fr3.. now I'm up to 32'r, it's on a 18k chassis...ccwr of 23k....add my trailer and i'm gonna be over max weight rating.... the alpine is rated at 40k,...when my wife is not happy about something... she never gets over it...I fix it and move on...Name: DSC03730.jpg Views: 122 Size: 110.4 KB