Legit question from a non drinker.

[Sharp shooter]

You need to change your question to Dive Bars. That better fits the profile of your question. When I think of bar, I'm thinking Yard House and the likes where there are plenty of foods and lots of variety in beer. You are correct with Dive Bars though. Many of the same people and generally older. They are fun in their own way as the old guys have some great stories to tell about wars and other experiences.

You may be right. I've always considered restaurants that have bars in them just that- Restaurants with bars in them Hell, I was kitchen manager of the original Cask n Cleaver and responsible for preparing the happy hour food back 25 years ago.

I used to go to with friends to the Red Dog in Needles and Sports Valley in Parker. I consider those bars just like Foxes. Are those dive bars? Straighten me out.