just so everyone knows, I bought two boats from cal, both said that cal doesn't have titles, this is wrong, to reg. out of state , you must have the title, when you reg. in cal , you have the option to get a paper title, and if you ever go to sell it,... you have to get the title to sell the trailer... non of the in state paper work will work for out of state sales..it's a long ass pain in the ass for the new buyer, and there is nothing they can do till they get the title,..another thing, watch your self when buying a boat from AZ, they don't have boat titles and someone could actually sell you a boat with a lien on it...usually they say, I don't know where the trailer title is, and that could be because the bank has it... so buyer beware... the best way to do a trans action is for the sellers to have both titles in hand...