I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. :hmm
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I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. :hmm
It depends on if you catch it or not.
Yes it is. Same as wanting to own and run a jet bote. :D
I like to drink. Sure would like to burn some green bud occasionally and not have to drink a bottle of whatever every night to catch a little buzz but because of work I'm subject to random testing- fuck you big brother.
Wanting is one thing, but after you actually own and run one, euphoria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tishimself
Clinically they say it is. But the real question is: is it caused by nature or nurture? The body will react to alcohol and will give a response when the stimulus is taken away (withdrawal). But are some people's predisposition for alcoholism caused by the nurturing they received or do they have a genetic deficiency that makes them more susceptible to their bodies craving the alcohol?
Why are some people mean drunks and others happy drunks? I wish I could find the study again (it was actually presented as part of an ethics in psychology course I took), but they gave alcoholics orange juice and told them they were drinking screwdrivers with vodka. A significant number of them fell off the wagon as a result, and even more of them actually acted drunk after consuming a large quantity of the juice. It was determined it was unethical to even tell an alcoholic you were giving him alcohol (even if you weren't).
That's interesting. I've wanted to figure out why some people are happy vs angry drunks. I'm convinced, based on zero medical data, that your true self comes out when you're drunk. You're not capable of pretending to be your persona anymore. But, again I have shit to back that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoC653
Alcoholism is a scary thing. The things people are willing to do to get a drink and get their fix is scary. I feel sad for the people around them. :(
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If someone can't stop drinking due to lack of Will power they classify it as a disease. If someone can't quit smoking because they are addicted is it a disease???
I think addiction is in ones mind and anyone can get over it with enough will power.
I quit smoking cigarettes 13 years ago because I wanted to. I do believe most addictions are mind over matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrunner1984
Congrats! Me and my fiancé quit 2 years ago jan 8th. Def mind over matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Napanutt
Good for you! Congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by Napanutt
My mother quit smoking about ten years ago. We were all so thrilled. Love her to death and wouldn't want her to have cigarette related illness. I'm sure your loved ones feel the same.
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I.M.O. I don't think is't a disease because I was an Alcoholic for 35 years. I actually liked to get hammered but it was my family that was more important to me so I quit cold turkey. It's been almost 5 years sober as of 2/28/09. However if you'd ask a sharp Lawyer the same question he would say it's a disease because of the steady drip, drip, drip when your shaking your Lizard.
F.Y.I. Becks N.A. and St. Polly Girl N.A. are great alternatives...
I'm 100% certain not all lawyers share that opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by nowski
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Hey, aren't you suppose to be Surfing???Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
The waves are too big :(Quote:
Originally Posted by nowski
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I don't believe it's a disease. I believe it to be more of an excuse for an underlying problem/problems. I also don't believe in addiction either. Anything done in repetition can be broken. Addiction is also a copeing mechanism for underlying problems. Disease and addiction are wwords given by physiologists to allow them to medicate their patients and justify why people commit crimes where physiological evaluations were needed for the defense. Nothing but excuses for a weaker mind.
This is some funny shit!!!
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clip...ddys-very-sick
I'm gonna venture to say that if you are an alcoholic, you'll be the first in line to deny and also downplay it's darkest side.
Alcoholism is a weakness. As stated previously, addictions are mind over matter, but in most cases the mind is weak therefore the addiction wins.
I view those who brag about their alcohol consumption as the weakest group. Drinking alcohol carries no real merit and shouldn't qualify as something to brag about. IMO
Yes Eli, alcohol works great as a truth serum. :D
http://www.russellbeer.com/russell_n...rum_Detail.jpg
I am also a firm believer that you are who you really are when you're right at that point of great buzz and uber drunk.
Humans suppress things and it the person's doing the suppression don't really know they are doing it. Sober I am hyper vigilant and always on my toes. Nothing gets past me. Sober I am an asshole.
Get some drinks in me and I'm still hyper vigilant but end up making jokes about the situations. I become a nice guy with not many cares in the world. I'll do anything for anyone if I have the means. No one ever seems to remember that side of me.
How I am when I'm drinking is who I was before alcohol and the Marines. The wife wishes I could be drunk 24/7. Lol
When it comes to the lengths people will go to to get their fix....smokers are worse than drinkers. If I had a nickel for every smoker I left behind because he/she hopped off to light up after the conductor warned everyone to stay on the train if this was not their stop, I could pretty much retire. We leave smokers behind, we call the cops on drunks.