Proper use of a Fire Truck

So lets not talk politics, shall we :D

He's a little story for you. My banker (VP at some business bank) invites me to dinner last week like poste haste. Hmmmmm.....why is he calling a dinner 911 during the week? So I oblige, I get to call the restaurant so sure as hell I am.

We're both a little seasoned, so neither of us brings up business. It was like a challenge to see who could go the longest. We had 3 cocktails and a great dinner. We talk about everything under the sun, except business.

So its getting late and I start to think, shit, he's not going to talk business at all. How the hell did I pull this off? Maybe he's just being a nice guy?? So I let my guard down and we keep talking. About 10-15min later he drops the bomb. SO....lets talk business.

That fucker got me. He's good, he's real good :D

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Originally Posted by Tishimself

Because when shit like this happens, they are they guys you want to see. And yes, that is me climbing up the side of the engine to shut it down, and Wayne, my conductor, holding the bottom of the ladder for me. The engine would not take a shutoff command from the emergency fuel cutoff, so I had to climb up and kill it the hard way. If they want to drive the truck to run for food, let them. I love those guys, they have saved my bacon more times than I can remember, here is a link to one I had while I was running freight.....they are the best of us, and by the way, they pay for their own food, if they want New Yorks, they get them. BTW, the conductor on my AM train two days a week, as well as in the picture above, was an NYC firefighter during the 9/11 attacks. We talked one day about bodies falling out of the sky...

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Do I need to tell you about global warming, green house gases, the energy shortage, and you have these guys driving the WORST polluting, EXEMPTED vehicles on earth. there is no such thing as a GREEN fire truck, and I am not talking about its color!!! Earth movers digging strip mines burn cleaner!!!

I can't speak for you, or anybody else, but I didn't pay that pile of shit for them to go grocery shopping in. Maybe they should consider hitting the Vons on their way to work. Do YOU leave work, take a company vehicle and go grocery shopping on you bosses time with his vehicle?

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Originally Posted by gn7

Do I need to tell you about global warming, green house gases, the energy shortage, and you have these guys driving the WORST polluting, EXEMPTED vehicles on earth. there is no such thing as a GREEN fire truck, and I am not talking about its color!!! Earth movers digging strip mines burn cleaner!!!

I can't speak for you, or anybody else, but I didn't pay that pile of shit for them to go grocery shopping in. Maybe they should consider hitting the Vons on their way to work. Do YOU leave work, take a company vehicle and go grocery shopping on you bosses time with his vehicle?

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LOL...your worried about a fire truck? Here's the deal. It's their truck for the shift. They can do as they please with it, within reason. Shopping included. They are on duty, they take the truck everywhere they go...as far as exhaust.....come on......seriously?? :D:D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZPvv04VZ-I

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Originally Posted by gn7

Do I need to tell you about global warming, green house gases, the energy shortage, and you have these guys driving the WORST polluting, EXEMPTED vehicles on earth. there is no such thing as a GREEN fire truck, and I am not talking about its color!!! Earth movers digging strip mines burn cleaner!!!

I can't speak for you, or anybody else, but I didn't pay that pile of shit for them to go grocery shopping in. Maybe they should consider hitting the Vons on their way to work. Do YOU leave work, take a company vehicle and go grocery shopping on you bosses time with his vehicle?

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Agreed.




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They've responded to our house on more than one occasion, I'm not saying anything bad about them. Those guys earn their money which by the way isn't that much.

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Originally Posted by Tishimself

LOL...your worried about a fire truck? Here's the deal. It's their truck for the shift. They can do as they please with it, within reason. Shopping included. They are on duty, they take the truck everywhere they go...as far as exhaust.....come on......seriously?? :D:D


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No! It's not their truck. It belongs to the tax payers. Just like if you worked for Verizon, you are issued a work truck. You are to use it for work only. It doesn't belong to you. It belongs to Verizon.

Now if the owner of Verizon wants to let his employes use their service trucks to run personal errands or do side work, that's up to Verizon. The fire department doesn't own the trucks. If you have forgotten, the fire dept. belongs to the tax payer.


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Btw I want to be very clear on something here. I have nothing personal against firefighters. I just don't like the waste. The fire department is only one of many of departments that need to cut the fat. I'm thankful they are there and I appreciate their service to the community. I just would like to see the tax payer better well spent on the tax payer, not for the firefighter to drive around a cool truck just because.


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Originally Posted by niceguyeddie

No! It's not their truck. It belongs to the tax payers. Just like if you worked for Verizon, you are issued a work truck. You are to use it for work only. It doesn't belong to you. It belongs to Verizon.

Now if the owner of Verizon wants to let his employes use their service trucks to run personal errands or do side work, that's up to Verizon. The fire department doesn't own the trucks. If you have forgotten, the fire dept. belongs to the tax payer.


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OK, this is getting too funny. Here's the deal. These guys are assigned to the vehicle for the entire shift. It goes with them wherever they go. Shopping, driving around town to do whatever. Get over it. Amtrak has company vehicles also. We use them all the time to run to breakfast, lunch or dinner. If we are out in the field doing a busbridge, should we run back to Merced to get our personal vehicle to make a burrito run? Ummm. No. We take the car and head over to whatever is closest and grab something. They do also. Get over it dude. As we used to say in the Navy, RHIP. Rank Has It's Privileges. Comes with the territory.

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Originally Posted by Tishimself

LOL...your worried about a fire truck? Here's the deal. It's their truck for the shift. They can do as they please with it, within reason. Shopping included. They are on duty, they take the truck everywhere they go...as far as exhaust.....come on......seriously?? :D:D

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You know, there is some street banger from Chicago in the WH right now that has the same fucking excuse about using TWO United States Air Force jets to get his family to Hawaii for vacation. Its OLD, and it BULLSHIT and SOME of us can see thru the bullshit!!! At every level of government. Its smaller offenses and mis-uses, but its still MIS-USES!!!
As for the exhaust, no I not serious, but you sure seemed to chugging down the kool aid they are serving up.

I use to go on what you call "on shift" every week day of my life for 38 years, and never ONCE went grocery shopping in a company vehicle during working hours. Do they take the freek'n kids to the ball game "on duty" too? In the company vehicle? Maybe take the little women out to dinner and a romantic drive on the beach???

Does Amtrak give you a fire truck worth more than the average persons house? No.

Rank has it's privileges? Haha.. What "rank"? A fire fighter is a PUBLIC SERVANT.

Yea keep that attitude. Just wait til all the business keep leaving CA due to high taxation, there's no one to tax to pay for all your special treatment and pension plans.

Other government workers in some areas of the county are sitting around shit broke without a job because the state cant pay salaries. And then there's also all the people not receiving their pensions they were promised and worked so hard for. Why, because their local government pissed all the money away and they can't sustain themselves or keep promises they made.



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Originally Posted by gn7

You know, there is some street banger from Chicago in the WH right now that has the same fucking excuse about using TWO United States Air Force jets to get his family to Hawaii for vacation. Its OLD, and it BULLSHIT and SOME of us can see thru the bullshit!!! At every level of government. Its smaller offenses and mis-uses, but its still MIS-USES!!!
As for the exhaust, no I not serious, but you sure seemed to chugging down the kool aid they are serving up.

I use to go on what you call "on shift" every week day of my life for 38 years, and never ONCE went grocery shopping in a company vehicle during working hours. Do they take the freek'n kids to the ball game "on duty" too? In the company vehicle? Maybe take the little women out to dinner and a romantic drive on the beach???

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There's also the entitlement crap that people buy into. Everyone thinks they're special these days and deserve the best. That's all society teaches now: "Fuck everyone else, do you"


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Originally Posted by niceguyeddie

Does Amtrak give you a fire truck worth more than the average persons house? No.

Rank has it's privileges? Haha.. What "rank"? A fire fighter is a PUBLIC SERVANT.

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I don't give a rats ass if Amtrak gives him a Bently to drive. I can CHOOSE not to ride the POS rail because I don't agree with their business practices. HOWEVER, if they are being SUBSIDZIED with tax payer money, have them drive used Plymouth Duster with slant sixes.

I have no choice but to pay for the fuel and wear and tear on the truck so they go joy ride in it and fulfill their childhood fantasy.
I know that Vic doesn't care to hear about what was. I don't get it, but that's the way he sees life. Lets just look forward, maybe to 1933 Germany errr uhh, 2033 Amerika.

kool aid gulpers today see them as "higher ups" the privledged. Give me a break. They are the HIRED HELP. No different than your plumber or your gardner!!! You just throw you gardner you wallet and tell him to take what ever he feels he is worth. Does he have the keys to your car, your house?
They are EMPLOYEES of the tax payer, and STEWARDS of our tax dollars. They are SUPPOSE to make do with want they receive, not burn it and DEMAND MORE!!

LOL...good night to you both...I gotta be up and out in the AM....but it is what it is guys. They "own" the truck from the moment they clock in till the moment they clock out. Nothing you can do to change that. So stop whining about it. There are cop cars in driveways around my neighborhood, I could care less. We need to be talking about jet botes and how it is they are still around after the recession. They should be banned from the waterways...they suck up the poor fish and spit them out like ......sushi....Hmmmmm....:wink2:

If this gets political I will lock it down.

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Originally Posted by GRADS

If this gets political I will lock it down.

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Go to bed GRADS or Ill get admin2 to come in here and jerk a knot in you..... :D

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Originally Posted by Tishimself

LOL...good night to you both...I gotta be up and out in the AM....but it is what it is guys. They "own" the truck from the moment they clock in till the moment they clock out. Nothing you can do to change that. So stop whining about it. There are cop cars in driveways around my neighborhood, I could care less. We need to be talking about jet botes and how it is they are still around after the recession. They should be banned from the waterways...they suck up the poor fish and spit them out like ......sushi....Hmmmmm....:wink2:

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What's your opinion on the 2nd amendment?

Got this off the Costa Mesa fire departments website.


Q: Why do I see the fire engine at the grocery store everyday, and who pays for their food?
A: The firefighters pay for their own food each day. If time permits and they are not busy running calls, you may see them shopping at a grocery store that is within their first-in area--the area in the city that each individual engine or truck is responsible for providing service. Firefighters do not get lunch breaks, or time off during the day, so many times you will see them leave the store while shopping to respond to an emergency call.

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Originally Posted by Tishimself

Go to bed GRADS or Ill get admin2 to come in here and jerk a knot in you..... :D

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Oops, I thought I was logged in Admin2 when I posted that.

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Originally Posted by Hye power

Got this off the Costa Mesa fire departments website.


Q: Why do I see the fire engine at the grocery store everyday, and who pays for their food?
A: The firefighters pay for their own food each day. If time permits and they are not busy running calls, you may see them shopping at a grocery store that is within their first-in area--the area in the city that each individual engine or truck is responsible for providing service. Firefighters do not get lunch breaks, or time off during the day, so many times you will see them leave the store while shopping to respond to an emergency call.

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And there you have it. Nice avatar by the way. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Hye power

Got this off the Costa Mesa fire departments website.


Q: Why do I see the fire engine at the grocery store everyday, and who pays for their food?
A: The firefighters pay for their own food each day. If time permits and they are not busy running calls, you may see them shopping at a grocery store that is within their first-in area--the area in the city that each individual engine or truck is responsible for providing service. Firefighters do not get lunch breaks, or time off during the day, so many times you will see them leave the store while shopping to respond to an emergency call.

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And there you have it. Nice avatar by the way. :thumbup: