The reason they can charge what they do is because there isn't another engine builder out there other than maybe Ilmor and possibly Teague where you can run their motors at WOT for 300 hours with only oil changes. ;)
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The reason they can charge what they do is because there isn't another engine builder out there other than maybe Ilmor and possibly Teague where you can run their motors at WOT for 300 hours with only oil changes. ;)
Big fat negative on that one. You're paying for insurance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRADS
Ehhhh...I'm not the best person to chime in here, because in the HB "How well do you know your motor" pop quiz I score consistently at the bottom of the list. That said, I sometimes wonder how much you pay just for the name when you add a Mercruiser Motor into the boat. I feel I can still get a lot more motor for less money by not going to Merc, but by going to someone like Menace Marine or to Teague. And, I like being face to face with the guy whose name is on the build sheet. No one knows the motor better than the guy who wrenched it. To me, Menace or Teague would get the nod before Mercruiser, and if anyone asked me, I would tell them this to me is a better way to power your boat. You hearing me GRADS??
What's the difference between:
4340 steel in the US and any where else in the world?
A German cnc crank grinder located in the US or any where else in the world?
A forging press located in the US or any where else in the world?
What's the difference between a scat crank and a sonny? In my opinion, nothing strength wise. However, I strongly support US made products and because I have the means, I would buy a sonny crank over a scat. I've only seen one scat crank break, and it was the fault of the owner having the blower belt too tight. So for someone on a budget, building a motor, do I think a "Chinese" rotating assembly is okay? Absolutely! But probably not for anything over 600-700 hp.
Now, what cranks, rods, blocks, etc is mercury using that makes their product better than the small engine builders? NOTHING!
You are paying for insurance, warranty, the name mercury, etc.
You could argue this crap for days. My favorite term to hear in the sales world for racing shit is " aircraft grade aluminum" I laugh my ass off ever time I hear that.
:yikes: WTF kind of porn are you looking at?Quote:
Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO
You're an idiot, here I'll capitalize it for you perv. ScatQuote:
Originally Posted by GRADS
Maybe something like this???Quote:
Originally Posted by GRADS
{Warning, if you look at this, you can never unsee it. You have been warned}
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=83b_1392415161
Wow! Way to "crap" on a thread. In her defense, I always give my ass the scratch and sniff test. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tishimself
Thought that was ATM not scratch n sniffQuote:
Originally Posted by GRADS
It was...LOL....Quote:
Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO
Jesus! You and your ATM and scat cranks tonight.:gayfight2: Speaking from experience?Quote:
Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO
Watch it fucktard! I'll go all BB on your ass. :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by GRADS
Grads, you think Merc has a corner on the market for parts made from Unobatainium? You really believe that their engines, even the 1350 and 1650 quad cam have only the best of the best in them? Not even close!!!! The prices may reflect that, and you may think that, but that doesn't make it so.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRADS
When you get into the higher HP Mercs, their overhaul schedule IS NOT 300 hours. Think more like 50-60.
In the lower 565 and under, the power they make is nothing for an engine that size.
You started this thread with a question, and now you are an expert on the engines.
Stick to "look at me" and "look what I found" threads Grads.
I can't bring myself click on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tishimself
Some years ago, when you googled Scat Crankshaft, the first website on the screen WAS NOT Scat engine crankshafts.
Our I.T. that had the job of fixing my computer at work called "getting hit by a pornado" I saw more in 30 seconds flashing on the screen than I ever care to see again.
Had a little bit of a time explaining to the boss how and why I was on a site that had that stuff and how I came to be on it.
Luckily, he has known Tom Lieb, the owner of Scat Crankshaft since they were teenagers and he kind of chuckled when I explained it to him.
It was not a pretty site
I have no clue what parts are in my motor nor do I really give a shit. What I care about is how fast my boat goes and how long the motor lasts. I'm the average buyer and that is why Mercury can charge what they do. That is why I'm looking for a Daytona with Mercury, Ilmor or Teague power.Quote:
Originally Posted by gn7
So you think mercury has magical micrometers and Dial bore indicators that no other machine shop can get their hands on?Quote:
Originally Posted by GRADS
They have better flux capacitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by WESTERNAERO
Are looking at a boat with no engine? Is this why you're asking?
You are the life blood of Mercury, and they know there is no shortage of your kind. It built the company. I would never deny they did the job of getting that message across than the next guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by GRADS
They are the masters of marketing and I give them a AAA+ for it. I give them a B- for the product itself, and a C- for Bang for the buck.
But they are not magicians, and there is nothing magical coming out that place.
When you decide you want to get serious about the power in you motor boat Grads, you just hand me your wallet and credit cards, and we will go on a shopping spree and see want we can find that's in you price range. You may be surprised if it isn't BLUE!
We'll START here!
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Paint the top blue, put shiny anodized pulley wheels on it, and they will come. I need more than that.....Quote:
Originally Posted by gn7
OMG that is some fuuuunnnny shit right there. That could be my sigline quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tishimself
Damn I am glad I wasn't drinking anything. My monitor would be a mess.
BLING SELLS!