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Originally Posted by gn7
i was banned 3 or maybe it was 5 times... i'm a color 'd person now.....lmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by gn7
Those are NOT last years rules. IF you remember, I was the one that said RD would NEVER get away with his ORGINAL MASS START race. Then he change it to ATTEMPT #2, still no go. he was NEVER going to get away with it. he told numerous time ON LINE he did not need the APBA and he WOULD IN FACT run the race as he saw fit. Then he got slapped awake, realized he was full of shit, and he did in fact need the APBA if had any change getting reasonable starting field and any chance of paying prize money. Why do you think RD removed those threads. Because they made him look like the moron he is/!!! He has NO CLUE how to put on a race. Its why he was forced to hire Scott. No way was the APBA going to give RD a sanction to run that race. It requires a APBA recognized club to start with, and RD didn't have that. You so stupid to think the APBA gives a hallpass to every dipshit with some money to put on an APBA sanctioned race. Hell no. You would end up with dipshits like RD running races. That can never be allowed. So RD became a PROMOTER. Its SCOTTS race, If something bad should go down, its SCOTT the APBA will talk to, not that fat ass with the supposed fat ass bank roll.
SOOOOO he STOLE the rules THAT THE RACERS THEMSELVES WROTE, not ROSS. But he INSISTED on making a few tweeks of his own and those tweeks cost him the APBA GNs. This was brought up to Scott in a laong ass breakfast meeting with the entire GN commission and the APBA region 12 chairman in attendance. It was IMPOSSSIBLE to get the rules changed to allow the GNs to run as a points race. From that point, you are dealing with individual owners as to whether they chose to run a 336 miles race with the race boats, THEN get them ready for the season opener in Nov. 4 weeks later. That's a tuff deal no matter who you are. if YOU do not race, you have no clue. If you don not open you wallet and spill the money to campaign a GN all year, then you hand RD have no room to be passing judgement on who does and does not run this race. It was RDs insistence on the rules, and the rules are what stopped the GNs from running for points.
Get YOU facts straight as well, before you go lipping off. It makes you look as dumb as the fat ass that runs that other site, and that doesn't look good on anybody. No body needs to deliberately look that stupid.
Dave only bans you so he can talk smack about you while you are banned, Its his M.O. The fat ass is a weakling that can't take any heat. Specially in front of his loyal nutswingers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FORCEFULL
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Originally Posted by gn7
I guess I got my answers, the hatred is getting old. Take care BoB, good luck next season . I mean that sincerely, I'm a fan of all things boating, especially racing. Take care....
Good grief. Will you ship?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigalert
Hatered, What would you call it when some drunken fat ass takes a race that was STARTED by racers, had the rules written BY RACERS, and then re-wrote the rules so that APBA class racers can't race it for the first time in 6 years? No GN points, no CJ points. Why would I or anybody else chose to run that race? Why do you thing I joined the APBA. TOO RACE!! I can run my boat up and down the river any time I want. What makes this any different? A couple of bucks. You don't know racers too well if you think that's a reason. The money is to entice those that don't race, not the ones that do. Racers all know better. Its still a major looser. So there needs to be something else for them and Dave deliberately removed that something else and it cost him 15 boats that I know of.
Am I angry? Hell yes. It was deliberate and totally uncalled for and unnecessary.
After awhile you get tired of the whiney bullshit from the peanut gallery with crap like "Boycott" and other childish BS. When Scott threw out there the first thing I ask was how many enduros he ran in past ZERO!! So I asked if he boycotted those. He laughed and said you have a point. '
How many here are running the enduro, and if not, are you boycotting it? Hammer, ehat class ware you running or are you boycotting your messiahs enduro? Because if you are not running the race, you have no more room to talk that Scott did.
Coming from a racers point of view, Bob's right on. For anybody who is competitive in their class, it's about points. Any prize money would just be kick back on a small portion of the investment we have in the boats. For an example our typical C/J cost on a 2 day 4 race weekend covering only 20 miles is $1500.00. Doesn't take into consideration the boat, hardware and the 15 grand I have in my motor. It's all about the points.
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I'm burying my step father that weekend, meanwhile I'm in nor cal taking care of my heartbroken mother, thanks for reminder :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by gn7
Add in the fact that the season opener is in Nov 4 weeks later, and you have to make a decision based on your willingness to miss that if you hurt the boat or motor. Many simply are not willing to take that chance. The season is more important than a couple of bucks you MIGHT win.
I read about your tragic lose Hammer. My heart felt prayers to you and your family. Mothers are very special people, and there is nothing that should stop anybody for caring for them. They care for us when we were totally dependent on them. The very least we can do for them is the same when they need us.
So much for going to bed at a reasonable hour. Time to close this one up.
ok, after much consideration. But please no bashing or personal attacks.
Hey Bob, You mean to tell me rules were changed so you can't get GN points? NO Way! never heard of that happening before :lmao
Well this has been a very informative thread.
I still have a lot of questions which remain unanswered.
1. Why would a promoter not want the GN boats to run at their event?
2. I would think a final season race for points at this event is a draw for any group of racers.
A. What were the obstacles between the parties that excluded GN boats from running?
3. I disagree with the premise that purse money is not a factor. I have never encountered a racer who is already committed to a season of racing say....Hey! I came for the points and decline the purse money. If I had 10K in purse money for first place you would have teams coming out of the woodwork scrambling to sign up. Thus, one can only conclude that points and purse is icing on the cake.
4. RD did respond to my question about payouts and indicated the purse money was in excess of 6K. However, they need to describe how that will be paid out and the sums. Also listing participants is important to me if you have a lot of guys racing it draws people to the event.
As for the old guard that was the base of this race... change is difficult to accept. Therefore, concessions need to be made but the West Coast needs this race. Why! well there is no other endurance race on the west...other than perhaps the Catalina Ski Race...there was the Rum run awhile back but it faded into history.
I for one would love to see this race happen every year and have a desire to participate with an entry of mine. However, I certainly would not spend the resources if the rules change yearly or at the whim and agenda of a particular group. Then again politics and boat racing is synonymous with each other.
KAP
Well now my pretzel thread is worthless!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotboat
GN7, got no beef with you, but you need to chill on the shit talking about RD, either confront him like a man or let it go. Too be honest if you talked shit like this about me I'd kick your ass. Doesn't matter if you disagree with his ideas etc etc, the 7th grade pissing match needs to go away. If he's talking shit about you I must have missed it, I did see you start this whole thing months back when he started the Enduro thread. Let it go, put your emotions to good and positive use and maybe figure out what's best for the race's future.
Not that big of a fan of Pretzels Mateo, but for some reason, that Wendi's pretzel burger looks kinda good!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mateo
I don't think I saw anywhere where anyone said anything about kicking anyone's ass until now. No need for personal threats ok. Thanks in advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvhca1