Mexican Gasoline

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Originally Posted by 2manymustangs

I dont know if it is still the case but I recall hearing that there WERE over 40 formulas in the U.S.... Nearly every state had their own formula and by law could not use supplies from other states that dont meet the spec...

I dont know if it got WORSE or better since the time I heard that statistic..

All Missouri gas is 10% alcohol minimum... Plus who knows what else...

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There is a formula for every climate, and elevation in the country, and it changes with the seasons. It is not unlawful for some states to share gasoline. It is unlawful for all of calif and much of NY and some other densely populated areas from using gasoline from other regions.
This enumerable variations is gasoline thru out the country is very reason why I am so anti E85 for use in the GNs. It is IMPOSSIBLE to baseline. It simply cannot be done. They use a water gauge to determine the alcohol content, but NOBODY can tell what alcohol, ethanol or methanol. It is also impossible short of a laboratory to determine the gasoline used in the E85. Anybody buying E 85 for a GN at a station is a fool, and there aren't many fools in the GN class. So who are they kidding. Get rid of the mixture and just change the damn class to K V bottom and knock the bullshit off.

The purity of gasoline today verses even 25 years ago cannot be compared. The gasoline today is more synthesized than refined. Its distilled, cat cracked, hydro cracked, isomerized, alkylized, demerized, and cat reformed. Basically, it totally dismantled, and reassembled into what they want it to be. No different than synthetic oil.
There is nothing in that fuel they don't want in it. Its great for emissions, and shit for mileage and power.

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Originally Posted by gn7

There is a formula for every climate, and elevation in the country, and it changes with the seasons. It is not unlawful for some states to share gasoline. It is unlawful for all of calif and much of NY and some other densely populated areas from using gasoline from other regions.
This enumerable variations is gasoline thru out the country is very reason why I am so anti E85 for use in the GNs. It is IMPOSSIBLE to baseline. It simply cannot be done. They use a water gauge to determine the alcohol content, but NOBODY can tell what alcohol, ethanol or methanol. It is also impossible short of a laboratory to determine the gasoline used in the E85. Anybody buying E 85 for a GN at a station is a fool, and there aren't many fools in the GN class. So who are they kidding. Get rid of the mixture and just change the damn class to K V bottom and knock the bullshit off.

The purity of gasoline today verses even 25 years ago cannot be compared. The gasoline today is more synthesized than refined. Its distilled, cat cracked, hydro cracked, isomerized, alkylized, demerized, and cat reformed. Basically, it totally dismantled, and reassembled into what they want it to be. No different than synthetic oil.
There is nothing in that fuel they don't want in it. Its great for emissions, and shit for mileage and power.

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How does the gas from other states effect a car? Say for example I take a cross country road trip and my car requires 91 octane and as you explained each state has their own "version" of gasoline. Is the difference enough to adversely effect the car?


Sent from my Bat Cave!!!

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Hotboat: Most land locked GM motors have that same smell

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Originally Posted by Mateo

The Fords are broken down so no fumes are released.

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Watch it bucko... :AngryFinger_7WSKJO:

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Originally Posted by Mateo

The Fords are broken down so no fumes are released.

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Wait, I predict you're going to get lambasted for that comment.

I have done a fair amount of traveling this year and purchased gasoline in many mid-west and east coast states that I have traveled through. I never really noticed any foul odor from burned gasoline, but the smell from the raw fuel coming out of the pump is terrible. At first I though it was because they don't have fume collectors on the pumps, but it is the actual fuel. I pumped some gas in a 5 gallon can for a generator and it just oozed fumes that are destined to give you a headache in no time. It smells nothing like the fuel that comes out of the CA,AZ and NV pumps.

I remember years ago when they were running the fuel through the sewer lines. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Although it didn't work out that great, parts of GUADALAJARA exploded underground.

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Originally Posted by YLDBOYZ

I remember years ago when they were running the fuel through the sewer lines. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Although it didn't work out that great, parts of GUADALAJARA exploded underground.

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I don't think they are using sewer pipes to move gasoline and oil around. But there is thousands of miles of hi pressure lines carrying everything from crude oil to refined gasoline in the country. You didn't think they trucked gas to places like Needles and Barstow did you. There are stations that are better than a thousand miles from the nearest refinery.
They don't even sent fuel trucks into refineries to fill them any more, They pump the fuel to distribution centers and the trucks get it there. About the only trucks going in and out of refineries today are trucks haulinjg out coke and sulfur.

In 1976 I was coming out of bank about a 1/2 block from a line explosion on Venice Blvd separating Los Angeles and Culver City. It knocked me back about 20 ft and right on my ass. Then I thought the world was coming to an end. Ugliest thing I have ever seen.

This is a list of pipe line accidents in the US since 1900. You can fine the one in Los Angeles in the '75-'99 list.
U.S> pipe line accidents

I remember the Guadalajara explosion very well. A worker at our shop had a niece that was killed when a car landed on her. It blew the entire main street straight up. They had cars on roof tops. Much worse than want I witnessed, and that was baaaad!

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Originally Posted by Eli

How does the gas from other states effect a car? Say for example I take a cross country road trip and my car requires 91 octane and as you explained each state has their own "version" of gasoline. Is the difference enough to adversely effect the car?


Sent from my Bat Cave!!!

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Your car will love it, and it will probably get slightly better gas mileage in most states. The lowest premium in the country, and guess who gets it. YEP! The stuff they sell us here is Calif is the worst of the worst. But the rest of the country is doing its best to catch up, and copy us.