So is this #1 Bob?
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So is this #1 Bob?
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That's it.!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharp shooter
That's the best picture I have ever seen of it outside of the one Rudy had.
Bottom doesn't seem all that different than a current GN. Makes me still wonder about the "parallax" ad.
What most don't stop to think about is that was 3+ years before built the 20 ft flat. But then, you can't really face a flat bottom outboard to well. So I guess you build what you NEED, and if you can sell them later as inboards, then that's just a bonus.
If you notice, the deck has no dash rise, no gunnels, just glassed plywood with a slight arch in it. The guy I met in Idaho said he had a Rayson, with no V drive, no shaft hole, with the same the deck.
The Allison deck was pretty flat, but was made up like a normal wood deck. The outboard was really plain jane and kind of crude. It had 3- 75 gal tanks in it, one for each out board, and aircraft type dry break fills. Rudy said they could dump a full load in one minute.
Yeah, I'm not saying it is (what the hell do I know), but that bottom looks just like all the rest to me. At least from that angle and from a low res pic.Quote:
Originally Posted by gn7
What happened to the deck? :D
Yeah, I wonder if Rudy's "parallax" bottom didn't turn out to be all that or that it was any different than what he had been selling :wink2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharp shooter
I edited my previous post about the deck. GOOD EYE!!!
THis one is NOT all that old, do you know her name??? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wendi
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I wonder if Fitz would know about the "mystery" bottom...LolQuote:
Originally Posted by gn7
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Originally Posted by Sharp shooter
He was working there at that time. I would think the Duff would know as well.
I first I would have said it was the bottom from Duffs GN, but that would never work with a jet, and the ad claims a jet won Puddingstone with that bottom. There is no putting a jet in Duff's GN. In fact, I am most positive that Rudy's GN was laid up around that time. Never seen anything unusual under that thing.
This ad cracks me up. Otto Crocker watches. That's some funny shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharp shooter
2 Many Mustangs avatar on PB is the surveyor's marker for the 1/4 mile drags finish at Long Beach. I wonder if Bruce even know that Otto himself probably placed that there. Or even knows who Otto was. I assume ole Otto has his scope setup on it.
Otto made a name for himself during that period, and was in some serious demand to verify world record attempts everywhere from land speeds at Bonneville to water records at Salton Sea. Back then, it wasn't a record unless ole Otto was there to verify it. You see it in a lot of ads claiming speed records during that time.
One of our Inspectors remembers blowing past boats that were tapped out, on a ski. He said the look on the drivers faces were memorable. He used to run the Catalina deal. His name was Don Smedley, don't know if anyone heard of him.
Don't remember a Don Smedely, but today, if you are doing 80+ in the ocean between Long Beach and Catalina, on any given day, a couple months before the race, you might just get smoked by a skier.Quote:
Originally Posted by SBS933
The 2 times I observed back in the late 60s in a flat bottom, I was in worse shape than the skier when we were thru. I was trashed.
On lakes and rivers, its much crazier. You only think your boat is fast and you are hauling ass, until you get passed by a skier. When I first built my GN I was driving to Black Meadows early on Monday, doing about 80 and Ashley Lathrop blew by us like we were tied to a tree. Just a daily practice run to the dam and back before going to school.
If your boat can't cruise at 100+ and do 125, you may just get zapped by a skier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggn2vFp7PsQ
These crackers don't look a whole different than they do today .... and they go waaay back, seem to almost predate everything else! ..... must be a traditional thing, they do look fun to drive although doesn't look to easy to make a quick exit out of one.Quote:
Originally Posted by gn7
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Originally Posted by westair
The basic hull goes back to 1938. Its the oldest class in the APBA, since about 1948. The engines rules have changed thru the years. If you look they had multiple carbs back then, on flat head engines. You can still run multi carbs or fuel injection on an alternative smaller 275 ci engine verses a 314, but nobody runs that anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by westair
The basic hull has remained pretty much the same thru all the years. But the rules covering the hull are pretty well spelled out and there is not much lee way. Its one of the things that caused the current riff and split in the class. So call variations from the hull specs.
When the crackers first came on the scene, they were the closest thing to what was called the Pacific One Design Hydros, and the crackers were the fastest accelerating hull in circle boats prior to the V drive flat coming on the scene around 1953-54 and becoming a class in 1959. Prior to the SK class, V drive flats began to own ski racing, and they had their own circle boat races between themselves at the ski races. APBA SK races and the start of boat drags were almost at the same time, primarily due to the creation of the v drive flat.
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I've never seen a Pacific one in person Bob. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by gn7
You'll never see this going down the highway. :D
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You'd be surprised Jerry. Bill's dad use to tow the 68 Rayson with 23 T roadster. He towed it from LA to the river more than once, Bill still has the car and the boat. The car had a 427 Ford MR and 4 speed with a M/T cross ram. I'll see if I can dig up a pic of it with the boat behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharp shooter
If you can tow a Stevens with a T bird on slicks, your sure as hell can tow a Rayson with a T roadster:shhh:
That's pretty cool Bob. Post a pic of that rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by gn7
Yeah my dad had a 427 in both the t-bird and the Stevens. He said he pulled up to a signal once where an unsuspecting Chevelle was waiting for the light. When the light turned green they hit it and my dad pulled away. He said the look on the Chevelle drivers face as he saw the boat passing him was priceless. :D
The bird had a 3 speed manual with the electric overdrive, slicks and 4.56 gears out back. He ran the hi po exhaust manifolds back then.
When I got the car running again in the late 90's it was a handful on street tires.
This is before the 427's. The bird had a HiPO 390 in it here.
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