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10-29-2013, 09:49 AM
hbchgirl

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Originally Posted by Wendi

Negative Nelly. You will never have anything good to say about this race, so best keep the rest of your opinions to yourself. None of us want to here it anymore, you've burned us out.

X2....
10-29-2013, 09:49 AM
KAP

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Originally Posted by gn7

Well there you have it folks, the race was a complete success because a first time spectator said it was, and thats want determines what is or is not a successful event. Lets hope that ALL 26 starters feel the same way so that ALL 26 of them return next year to make it another great success.
By the way, there was NOTHING first time about any of it. Only the guys pocketing the money are different.

Note to GN7:

Please reread what I wrote and do not paraphrase the thesis of the review if you are unsure.

I know several teams which attended and paid money but did not start because of mechanical issues. Therefore, your participation number is a bit skewed to suit your agenda. Your agenda was noted opposition to the race director, organizer and promoter. Your attempt here is to minimize the participation in a race in order to downplay it's significance. However, try as you might in vain...winning the overall in this Parker 336 is a huge accomplishment. In addition, your comments are completely disrespectful to all of the people who did participate and as you stated before they put up the money to run...not you. Lastly, your role this year... is no better than a spectator... strike that as I do not believe you attended the event. Therefore, my comments have greater merit.

Contrary to your hopes the event was a success. To what degree... not completely 100%... but it's their first one and needs to be further refined. They will get the bugs out of the process. These events are like a work in progress just ask any race organizer but you already knew that.

RogerThat99

Thanks Scott, I appreciate the kind words and hope to see you at the next event.

KAP
10-29-2013, 09:50 AM
Stainless

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Originally Posted by gn7

NOT TRUE. There could have been 50 starters and 25,000 paid out, and PROVED what I said about this fiasco wrong.
The way I see it, ANYBODY could take this race from RD and be MORE justified than RD every was. This was the definition of a complete failure.

Bob, please? Let it go.
10-29-2013, 09:54 AM
hbchgirl

Great review KAP!
10-29-2013, 09:56 AM
SFV2RVR

Quote:

Originally Posted by gn7

NOT TRUE. There could have been 50 starters and 25,000 paid out, and PROVED what I said about this fiasco wrong.
The way I see it, ANYBODY could take this race from RD and be MORE justified than RD every was. This was the definition of a complete failure.

Ok we fucking get it already! Get over it. The 336 happened and you could care less about RD! Move the fuck on or get lost with your negative bullshit!
10-29-2013, 09:57 AM
riverbound

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Originally Posted by Wendi

Let's all get back on track to the original meesage from KAP... His review of the Enduro 336. Roger just curious what was it about the longer course that they liked? It seemed to me the boats were alot more spread out, which I would have enjoyed seeing them running closer together and possibly more action??

With the longer course it have us a chance to run a better race. Although we broke early, there was less traffic and more room to run a better race. Although there were some lulls in the action. It did give plenty more areas for spectator viewing that wasn't available before. It also will give the ability to run higher boat counts safer in the future.

I definitely liked the longer course. Like has been stated before the cash payouts were nice. They don't cover the cost at all. But it was nice to be able to buy beers and be part of the action. We got $200 total. We didn't run qualifying due to our fuel issues and ended up going out of the race after 2 laps. Last year the winner overall didn't get shit. In fact they didn't even have a clear winner.

Like has been said by ALL who participated, it was a great event. And every team there was already planning for next year as well as any others that didn't race this year showing heavy interest in participating as we'll.

Th people that are bad mouthing the event are those that have a very obvious "agenda".
10-29-2013, 10:00 AM
Wendi

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Originally Posted by riverbound

With the longer course it have us a chance to run a better race. Although we broke early, there was less traffic and more room to run a better race. Although there were some lulls in the action. It did give plenty more areas for spectator viewing that wasn't available before. It also will give the ability to run higher boat counts safer in the future.

I definitely liked the longer course. Like has been stated before the cash payouts were nice. They don't cover the cost at all. But it was nice to be able to buy beers and be part of the action. We got $200 total. We didn't run qualifying due to our fuel issues and ended up going out of the race after 2 laps. Last year the winner overall didn't get shit. In fact they didn't even have a clear winner.

Like has been said by ALL who participated, it was a great event. And every team there was already planning for next year as well as any others that didn't race this year showing heavy interest in participating as we'll.

Th people that are bad mouthing the event are those that have a very obvious "agenda".

Thanks Bill for the feedback. I totally understand now the longer track and yes plenty more spectator viewing locations. We have some great pics of Lynch running we were cheering you guys on!!!
10-29-2013, 10:02 AM
Havasu Party Bus

Well i don't have a dog in this beef and i havn't posted in any of this drama that keeps running around.
Will someone give me a call when all the bullshit drama gets cleaned out of the sandbox?
So i'm out for now.
10-29-2013, 10:05 AM
Wendi

2 Attachment(s)

Attachment 23372 Attachment 23373 These two racers seemed to be having a great time running the race. A thumbs up and a fist pump!!
10-29-2013, 10:11 AM
WESTERNAERO

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Originally Posted by Havasu Party Bus

Well i don't have a dog in this beef and i havn't posted in any of this drama that keeps running around.
Will someone give me a call when all the bullshit drama gets cleaned out of the sandbox?
So i'm out for now.

Never introduced myself, but I was talking to you about your helicopter at the cantina. Did you get any good video of the race?
10-29-2013, 10:13 AM
riverbound

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Originally Posted by Havasu Party Bus

Well i don't have a dog in this beef and i havn't posted in any of this drama that keeps running around.
Will someone give me a call when all the bullshit drama gets cleaned out of the sandbox?
So i'm out for now.

Dont call us we'll call you ;)
10-29-2013, 10:16 AM
460

Quote:

Originally Posted by gn7

NOT TRUE. There could have been 50 starters and 25,000 paid out, and PROVED what I said about this fiasco wrong.
The way I see it, ANYBODY could take this race from RD and be MORE justified than RD every was. This was the definition of a complete failure.

Honestly man, let it go.
10-29-2013, 10:21 AM
riverbound

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Originally Posted by Ron Hill

I saw Hill Propellers listed as a $1,000 sponsor, the check was for $2,550 ($2,000 sponsorship package, one $400 entry fee and $150 discounted entry fee because of sponsorship package). Hill Marine and Signature Propellers looks forward to being a sponsor again next year. Chad sold a prop to a guy on the launch ramp the weekend before the 336!

Having raced my first 9 Hour in 1967 and racing in everyone until about 1989, this year's Qualifying and Handicapping were outstanding. This was the 8th Enduro since I help revive the race, it was the best ever....The FREE Pig Bar-B-Que for driver's and crews was like the OLD DAYS when Slick Johnson (Inventor of the Jaws of Life...using Mercury Power Trim) used to have Shrimp Boils sponsored by OMC and Mercury!

The BIG COURSE brought back the feeling to the community that this is THEIR Race...Spectators lined the banks and roads on the cliffs to watch and wave to the drivers.

Great job, Scott and Dave!

Things like this are what the real racers who actually showed up to the event are saying about it. So we can either take a person who wasn't there and involved in the races judgment or people who actually were there and racing whether the event was a success or a failure.
10-29-2013, 10:22 AM
RogerThat99

Ron Hill of Hill Propellers made a great post on RDP. I think he is well qualified to comment on whether the race was a success or not.

"Having raced my first 9 Hour in 1967 and racing in everyone until about 1989, this year's Qualifying and Handicapping were outstanding. This was the 8th Enduro since I help revive the race, it was the best ever....The FREE Pig Bar-B-Que for driver's and crews was like the OLD DAYS when Slick Johnson (Inventor of the Jaws of Life...using Mercury Power Trim) used to have Shrimp Boils sponsored by OMC and Mercury!

The BIG COURSE brought back the feeling to the community that this is THEIR Race...Spectators lined the banks and roads on the cliffs to watch and wave to the drivers.

Great job, Scott and Dave!"
10-29-2013, 10:23 AM
riverbound

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wendi

Thanks Bill for the feedback. I totally understand now the longer track and yes plenty more spectator viewing locations. We have some great pics of Lynch running we were cheering you guys on!!!

Next year we wk have lynches boat improved and if things go right we will be fielding two boats ;)
10-29-2013, 10:23 AM
RogerThat99

Quote:

Originally Posted by riverbound

Things like this are what the real racers who actually showed up to the event are saying about it. So we can either take a person who wasn't there and involved in the races judgment or people who actually were there and racing whether the event was a success or a failure.

Great minds think alike!! :D
10-29-2013, 10:28 AM
westair

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerThat99

Ron Hill of Hill Propellers made a great post on RDP. I think he is well qualified to comment on whether the race was a success or not.

"Having raced my first 9 Hour in 1967 and racing in everyone until about 1989, this year's Qualifying and Handicapping were outstanding. This was the 8th Enduro since I help revive the race, it was the best ever....The FREE Pig Bar-B-Que for driver's and crews was like the OLD DAYS when Slick Johnson (Inventor of the Jaws of Life...using Mercury Power Trim) used to have Shrimp Boils sponsored by OMC and Mercury!

The BIG COURSE brought back the feeling to the community that this is THEIR Race...Spectators lined the banks and roads on the cliffs to watch and wave to the drivers.

Great job, Scott and Dave!"

Pretty cool .... love the history
10-29-2013, 10:29 AM
hbchgirl

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Originally Posted by Carbon

Bob, please? Let it go.

Seriously... someone needs a hug lol
10-29-2013, 10:32 AM
riverrunner1984

Great review Kap!

Is it me or has this race received more attention, both positive and negative, then any other race that has been posted about on HB?
I am strictly a pleasure boater but, in my opinion, this has been intense to read about.
Glad its over and looking forward the coverage in Phoenix.
10-29-2013, 11:20 AM
H2oSki2Fast

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAP

Parker 336 Review:

I thought the course was really long and thus waiting for boats to loop around was not fun. On the flip side if you have more entries. The longer course would stretch the distance between boats. As a spectator I would have liked a shorter course...to see more side by side racing rather than long stretches of waiting for boats to come down the course usually solo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by riverbound

With the longer course it have us a chance to run a better race. Although we broke early, there was less traffic and more room to run a better race. Although there were some lulls in the action. It did give plenty more areas for spectator viewing that wasn't available before. It also will give the ability to run higher boat counts safer in the future.

I definitely liked the longer course. Like has been stated before the cash payouts were nice. They don't cover the cost at all. But it was nice to be able to buy beers and be part of the action. We got $200 total. We didn't run qualifying due to our fuel issues and ended up going out of the race after 2 laps. Last year the winner overall didn't get shit. In fact they didn't even have a clear winner.

Like has been said by ALL who participated, it was a great event. And every team there was already planning for next year as well as any others that didn't race this year showing heavy interest in participating as we'll.

Th people that are bad mouthing the event are those that have a very obvious "agenda".

I will say the longer course is a big help when you are the crew. It's a hectic time to get the boat on the water, figure out where you are supposed to be lined up, as it is announced less than 10 minutes before the start (which still is plenty of time, just a bit chaotic). Once the flag drops, you get a chance to relax before counting laps and getting back to your game plan. Another benefit is the pit traffic. With the field spread out, it's much less stressful making sure you have the trailer in position when the boat comes around for it's pit time, as there aren't many people pitting at the same time.

People have said there was a lull in the action, which I didn't notice, but maybe I am used to it from ski racing marathons, which uses a very similar course.

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