So fast food workers want 15$ an hour?

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Originally Posted by Bobby V

I don't think that machine can cook, clean and hand you your order.

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Neither can may of the humans there! :D

Higher wages = higher prices. Econ 101.
I would gladly order from a machine in order to keep my food cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Bobby V

In n out pays well and their burgers are still about $4

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While this is a cheeky anecdotal response it really is not based on quantitative data.

We are all aware that in-n-out pays better than say McDonalds as a whole it is also true that the tenure of in-n-out employees is dramatically longer than the average fast food restaurant..........This goes to increased productivity.

It is also true that in-n-out has a much more limited menu..........this goes to increased productivity, less spoilage and lower food costs due to many other factors.

In-n-out locations drive a much higher customer flow per square footage vs. any other FF chain in the entire country......goes to greatly reduced costs as well.


Now I'm sure there are many other things that are different between various FF companies but I can tell you for a fact (personally owning 2 FF restaurants) that labor is approx. 26-30% at our operation and we manage this very closely......if our labor costs were to increase to $15 an hour it would drive our labor costs up ~18% of revenues including all the "fringe" costs involved and we would not have a means of increasing productivity to compensate.

Additionally all of our suppliers (who pay primarily MW) also would have to raise their prices. Insurance costs for Workers Comp would also raise as these are based wages paid......and on and on and on.

Bottom line is that you can't just say "X dos this so everybody should be able to do that......because while it can sometimes be true .........in most cases you just can't know unless you have ALL the facts in evidence when making such statements. :D

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Originally Posted by Mateo

Neither can many of the humans there! :D

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LMFAO!!! :lmao1:

Ya know, I like ham & cheese on rye, hoagies, egg salad on rye, even PBJ on toast and I damn sure like MY OWN hamburgers and tacos better than anything that McDonalds/Burger King/Carls/Hardees/ChickFillet/Starbucks/Wendy's/JACK N THE BOX/Subway/Quiznos/Panera can muster up... For 1/4 the price that they currently cost (not to mention the pending price increase)... Fries aren't good for me...

Im trying to transition my kids AWAY from that stuff...

I have to admint, when we go to Cali we do hit IN-N-OUT a few times as a treat...

My grandpa used to tell me "it's not how much you make, it's how much you save"...

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Originally Posted by Paul65K

While this is a cheeky anecdotal response it really is not based on quantitative data.

We are all aware that in-n-out pays better than say McDonalds as a whole it is also true that the tenure of in-n-out employees is dramatically longer than the average fast food restaurant..........This goes to increased productivity.

It is also true that in-n-out has a much more limited menu..........this goes to increased productivity, less spoilage and lower food costs due to many other factors.

In-n-out locations drive a much higher customer flow per square footage vs. any other FF chain in the entire country......goes to greatly reduced costs as well.


Now I'm sure there are many other things that are different between various FF companies but I can tell you for a fact (personally owning 2 FF restaurants) that labor is approx. 26-30% at our operation and we manage this very closely......if our labor costs were to increase to $15 an hour it would drive our labor costs up ~18% of revenues including all the "fringe" costs involved and we would not have a means of increasing productivity to compensate.

Additionally all of our suppliers (who pay primarily MW) also would have to raise their prices. Insurance costs for Workers Comp would also raise as these are based wages paid......and on and on and on.

Bottom line is that you can't just say "X dos this so everybody should be able to do that......because while it can sometimes be true .........in most cases you just can't know unless you have ALL the facts in evidence when making such statements. :D

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Sure you don't at least have a J.D.? That was better than a lot of attorneys I've seen in court.

All fast food is gross!!! Dont think they even use real meat anymore!!

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Originally Posted by Paul65K

While this is a cheeky anecdotal response it really is not based on quantitative data.

We are all aware that in-n-out pays better than say McDonalds as a whole it is also true that the tenure of in-n-out employees is dramatically longer than the average fast food restaurant..........This goes to increased productivity.

It is also true that in-n-out has a much more limited menu..........this goes to increased productivity, less spoilage and lower food costs due to many other factors.

In-n-out locations drive a much higher customer flow per square footage vs. any other FF chain in the entire country......goes to greatly reduced costs as well.


Now I'm sure there are many other things that are different between various FF companies but I can tell you for a fact (personally owning 2 FF restaurants) that labor is approx. 26-30% at our operation and we manage this very closely......if our labor costs were to increase to $15 an hour it would drive our labor costs up ~18% of revenues including all the "fringe" costs involved and we would not have a means of increasing productivity to compensate.

Additionally all of our suppliers (who pay primarily MW) also would have to raise their prices. Insurance costs for Workers Comp would also raise as these are based wages paid......and on and on and on.

Bottom line is that you can't just say "X dos this so everybody should be able to do that......because while it can sometimes be true .........in most cases you just can't know unless you have ALL the facts in evidence when making such statements. :D

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Is your real name Job?

I would have just said apples and oranges :D

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Originally Posted by Hotboat

Is your real name Job?

I would have just said apples and oranges :D

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Job as in "get one" or "I don't have one"?? :D

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Originally Posted by Paul65K

Job as in "get one" or "I don't have one"?? :D

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Job as in Jobe :D

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Originally Posted by Bobby V

In n out pays well and their burgers are still about $4

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In n out starts their employees at about $10 per hour, not $15.