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10-24-2013, 04:15 PM
gn7

Teague (77) has probably been there for little while. Not sure who the 92 is. That number belonged to Rudy Ramos for along time.
10-24-2013, 04:17 PM
Stainless

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Originally Posted by Skyskier

:wtf:AND , BTW, there are THREE outboard races, NOT ONE, ..................reading comprehension ?:fsakes:wtf:

Three outboard races, this is getting awesomer! RD rocks! :D

CH3NO2
10-24-2013, 04:18 PM
HB Vic

Well this has been a bit of a surprise. I was sure GN7 would be the one to close up this thread, again, but thank you GN7 for being extremely civilized and generous in providing a ton of good information to all of us. I certainly appreciate it. Now there seems to be some sort of other hair raising battle going on and to be honest, I'm not even sure whats it all about. And I honestly don't want to know at this point. So, unless we can all play, I lock it up once again. Please don't think you're gonna get your last jab in before I do, because I'll just delete it. So, whats it gonna be? :D
10-24-2013, 04:22 PM
gn7

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Originally Posted by Skyskier

Attachment 22860

Skyskier, the guy that drives my GN owns the Rayson LP (Ponytail)that is in that article. His dad bought it from Dick Williams in 1970 and its been in the family ever since. Still has it.
10-24-2013, 04:24 PM
Stainless

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Originally Posted by Hotboat

Well this has been a bit of a surprise. I was sure GN7 would be the one to close up this thread, again, but thank you GN7 for being extremely civilized and generous in providing a ton of good information to all of us. I certainly appreciate it. Now there seems to be some sort of other hair raising battle going on and to be honest, I'm not even sure whats it all about. And I honestly don't want to know at this point. So, unless we can all play, I lock it up once again. Please don't think you're gonna get your last jab in before I do, because I'll just delete it. So, whats it gonna be? :D

Can you at least give Bob time to read my appreciation of how this is becoming a race for outboards. I wish I could be in attendance now. :D

CH3NO2
10-24-2013, 04:29 PM
Skyskier

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Originally Posted by gn7

Skyskier, the guy that drives my GN owns the Rayson LP (Ponytail)that is in that article. His dad bought it from Dick Williams in 1970 and its been in the family ever since. Still has it.

I've been in touch with one of Dick's grandson's, said he hadn't seen a lot of the old pics of Dick sr, Dickie & Leslie, the whole Williams family was one of the families that made ski racing what it once was, absolutely the most fun I ever had in my 66 years.
10-24-2013, 04:30 PM
gn7

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Originally Posted by Hotboat

Well this has been a bit of a surprise. I was sure GN7 would be the one to close up this thread, again, but thank you GN7 for being extremely civilized and generous in providing a ton of good information to all of us. I certainly appreciate it. Now there seems to be some sort of other hair raising battle going on and to be honest, I'm not even sure whats it all about. And I honestly don't want to know at this point. So, unless we can all play, I lock it up once again. Please don't think you're gonna get your last jab in before I do, because I'll just delete it. So, whats it gonna be? :D

Its basically a pissing match about whether flat bottoms are better than the current ski boats.
I can settle pretty easy. Flat bottoms built ski racing. V bottoms will be the death of ski racing. The proof is in the history, not speculation.

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Originally Posted by Carbon

Can you at least give Bob time to read my appreciation of how this is becoming a race for outboards. I wish I could be in attendance now. :D

CH3NO2

Personally, I'd rather watch paint dry than watch 100 outboards run the Parker enduro. I lived thru those years. Its why it died, and fizzled into history. Nobody cared.
10-24-2013, 04:37 PM
Stainless

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Originally Posted by gn7

Its basically a pissing match about whether flat bottoms are better than the current ski boats.
I can settle pretty easy. Flat bottoms built ski racing. V bottoms will be the death of ski racing. The proof is in the history, not speculation.

Personally, I'd rather watch paint dry than watch 100 outboards run the Parker enduro. I lived thru those years. Its why it died, and fizzled into history. Nobody cared.

Jeez Bob, you didn't even give me a smilie with that kick in the nuts. :D
Btw, I have two OB's on the back of mine, you know to make up for the non-believers. :p

CH3NO2
10-24-2013, 04:39 PM
HB Vic

Quote:

Originally Posted by gn7

Its basically a pissing match about whether flat bottoms are better than the current ski boats.
I can settle pretty easy. Flat bottoms built ski racing. V bottoms will be the death of ski racing. The proof is in the history, not speculation.

Personally, I'd rather watch paint dry than watch 100 outboards run the Parker enduro. I lived thru those years. Its why it died, and fizzled into history. Nobody cared.

I'm ok with a pissing match, as long as it doesn't get personal. If these two guys are friends and they're just badgering eachother, I'm ok with that too. But it doesn't read that way to me.
10-24-2013, 04:45 PM
Skyskier

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Originally Posted by Hotboat

I'm ok with a pissing match, as long as it doesn't get personal. If these two guys are friends and they're just badgering eachother, I'm ok with that too. But it doesn't read that way to me.

no pissing match, young buck came in , gun's blazing an I put him in his place. I'm over it, actually never was " on " it :smile: , just stated a few "FACTS", nothing more, nothing less, certainly nothing personal on MY behalf.:wink:
10-24-2013, 04:46 PM
78Southwind

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Originally Posted by Carbon

Awesome! Hope an outboard wins. :D

CH3NO2

Outboards are for Pontoon boats...Attachment 22863 :wink_002:
10-24-2013, 04:52 PM
gn7

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Originally Posted by Hotboat

I'm ok with a pissing match, as long as it doesn't get personal. If these two guys are friends and they're just badgering eachother, I'm ok with that too. But it doesn't read that way to me.

No, more like a passionate discussion of the "new guard" can kick ass on the "old guard". Not to hard now that the "old guard" in their 60s and 70s.
I'd love to see some of young Turks get their asses towed to Catalina behind a 18ft flat and match the times they were running back then.
The sport was built up by the flat bottom v drives. Its hey day was the flat bottom years.
10-24-2013, 04:55 PM
H2oSki2Fast

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Originally Posted by Skyskier

Dipshit quotes above are from YOU ( I made the one really really big so YOU could read it ) since you seem to be such a voracious reader, try to wrap your mind around the article attached here, 180 SKIERS at ONE race over TWO DAY's of racing. It's more than obvious too me that the "FLAT BOTTOMS" were capable of FILLING RACE VENUES. I look at the LOW number of racers that show up at the ski races these day's, hell I doubt you get 180 "skiers" a year in all races combined, yet YOU say the "FLAT BOTTOM's" have been "surpassed" ? AND don't EVEN bring up "the catalina ski race, greatest ski race in the world", shit, back in the day we'd get upwards of 120 or more boat/ski teams, most of them 18 ft. "ski race boats", and an occasional 20 ft. day cruiser type. Run along now son, you ARE too young, too dumb and way UNDER equipped to debate me on the history of waterski racing. I'm NOT into it anymore, I'm old an had my "day in the sun" and ENJOYED it to the fullest. In closing, I would suggest you seek some professional help, I can see my post's on the glory day's waterski racing are just eating at you, just let it go man, it will NEVER be like it WAS, FACT.

You don't even have the intellect to have this conversation. I never said, as you are inferring, that flat bottoms didn't have an integral part of ski racing, they did, and I am still a fan of flat bottoms as that's what I was raised around. Where are the flat bottoms now? When was the last time you saw one in a ski race? There is a reason for it.

The article you posted, which you seem to re-post every time the subject of ski racing comes up, is just typical of the deflection of what was said and your lack to grasp the understanding of words comprised into sentences.

You want to know when you lose an intellectual debate, when you have nothing else to say except for insults, as you have done.

Your senility has you convinced that there is nothing else in the world, except the way you did it in the past. I guess that's the part I am least looking forward to about getting old, is not being able to embrace what technology has to offer, and being jaded because it wasn't there when I was in my prime.
10-24-2013, 04:55 PM
HB Vic

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Originally Posted by gn7

No, more like a passionate discussion of the "new guard" can kick ass on the "old guard". Not to hard now that the "old guard" in their 60s and 70s.
I'd love to see some of young Turks get their asses towed to Catalina behind a 18ft flat and match the times they were running back then.
The sport was built up by the flat bottom v drives. Its hey day was the flat bottom years.

Well that's easy, have you ever seen a "Young Guys Rule" T shirt?? :D
10-24-2013, 04:57 PM
HB Vic

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Originally Posted by 78Southwind

Outboards are for Pontoon boats...Attachment 22863 :wink_002:

Nicely themed pot stirrer :D
10-24-2013, 05:00 PM
gn7

They can whip up a kick ass batch of margaritas on a 55 gal drum too.
When I go boating, I want to hear an engine that reminds me of something other than yard work.
10-24-2013, 05:07 PM
WMC

Let's get back on track. If see the Hotboat.com banner wave I'll be taking pictures. Location on the river

sent from WMC's phone
10-24-2013, 05:10 PM
Skyskier

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Originally Posted by gn7

No, more like a passionate discussion of the "new guard" can kick ass on the "old guard". Not to hard now that the "old guard" in their 60s and 70s.
I'd love to see some of young Turks get their asses towed to Catalina behind a 18ft flat and match the times they were running back then.
The sport was built up by the flat bottom v drives. Its hey day was the flat bottom years.

Bob, I'm pretty sure you knew Bob Nordskog ? He pulled Tim Guckes in the catalina, back "in the old day's", I'm guessing maybe 1965/66, they got out near the breakwater the boat wasn't running up to snuff. They turned around came back dropped Tim an switched boats. Took off AGAIN, BEHIND every other entry that year, made it over AND back in 58 minutes. Un-fortunately Bob did NOT get the official "record" as it was NOT the boat they started with. Tim said he saw Bob some years later an Bob was STILL pissed they didn't get "the record" time. I'm probably NOW gonna have to have this "post" signed in blood by Tim as Bob is no longer here to substantiate this as truth, and, I'll probably have to have it notarized for "the young guns" for them to believe that one of the so called "surpassed" flat bottoms could actually do this record run 25 years BEFORE one of the v-bottoms could. Truth be told, I don't know what year the official "under an hour" time was made, I try to speak only in factual terms so, I'll let one of the " young guns" scurry off to wikipedia or whatever they get THEIR fact's from, or MAYBE he bring his uncle Mike in to speak for him.
10-24-2013, 05:12 PM
Stainless

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Originally Posted by gn7

They can whip up a kick ass batch of margaritas on a 55 gal drum too.
When I go boating, I want to hear an engine that reminds me of something other than yard work.

Bob, your pretty hard to match wits with, I'm gonna have to think on this one for a little while. ;)

CH3NO2
10-24-2013, 05:22 PM
Skyskier

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Originally Posted by H2oSki2Fast

You don't even have the intellect to have this conversation. I never said, as you are inferring, that flat bottoms didn't have an integral part of ski racing, they did, and I am still a fan of flat bottoms as that's what I was raised around. Where are the flat bottoms now? When was the last time you saw one in a ski race? There is a reason for it.

The article you posted, which you seem to re-post every time the subject of ski racing comes up, is just typical of the deflection of what was said and your lack to grasp the understanding of words comprised into sentences.

You want to know when you lose an intellectual debate, when you have nothing else to say except for insults, as you have done.

Your senility has you convinced that there is nothing else in the world, except the way you did it in the past. I guess that's the part I am least looking forward to about getting old, is not being able to embrace what technology has to offer, and being jaded because it wasn't there when I was in my prime.

Jeseus, this REALLY IS eating at you isn't it ? I posted this what ? 6, 8 YEARS AGO ? ..........glad to see I made such an impression, but sorry to see it's having such an impact on YOUR life. And being jaded ?? puleez, it was ALL THERE in MY prime, I skied with ALL THE BEST that ever put on a racing ski, won a few, lost a few, but RACE we did. I don't think you'll EVER see 8 boats going into that 1st turn down at the Casino at the same time again anytime soon. Like I said, let it go, you'll be a better "old man" for it when you grow up. :wink2:

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