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McRib
01-30-2014, 09:42 PM
Looks like the owner just bought 60 acres in Inglewood.

Walmart owned the land but sold it after failing to get public approval for a superstore. Madison Square Garden Co., which owns the Forum, had planned to buy the lot for an estimated $90 million in order to acquire more space for parking and possibly additional development. However, MSG was informed by Wal-Mart at the end of 2013 that the land had already been sold to an unnamed party. The individuals confirmed the buyer is Kroenke, a former Wal-Mart board member and husband of Ann Walton Kroenke, daughter of Wal-Mart co-founder Bud Walton. For years, Kroenke has owned a substantial amount of land in Southern California.

The Rams neither confirmed nor denied that Kroenke had purchased the land and declined to comment on the situation.

Los Angeles has been without an NFL franchise since the Rams and Raiders left after the 1994 season. Although relocating a franchise would be fraught with challenges, and the L.A. market repeatedly has been used as leverage to get stadium deals done in other cities, this is the first time an NFL owner has bought a piece of land in the L.A. area capable of accommodating a stadium.

The Rams have been unable to work out a stadium deal in St. Louis, and, according to the terms of their lease, are able to move after the 2014 season. Last February, the Rams won an arbitration case against the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission concerning upgrades to the Edward Jones Dome. The commission proposed spending $124 million to bring the venue up to date, but the Rams said the necessary renovations would cost about $700 million.

Kroenke's purchase of the L.A.-area land puts additional pressure on St. Louis to come to the bargaining table or risk losing its NFL team. However, 60 acres is probably too small to fit a stadium and the required parking.

An adjacent 238-acre site is owned by Stockbridge Capital Partners, which intends to transform the recently closed Hollywood Park Racetrack into a modern residential community, Hollywood Park Tomorrow, with development beginning this spring. It is unclear whether it would be possible or financially feasible for Kroenke to purchase some portion of that land for a stadium, especially one unlikely to be publicly financed in any way.

Inglewood Mayor James T. Butts said he was aware of the land sale and that he would welcome a football stadium if the development included shops, restaurants and entertainment-related businesses that would be open year-round.

"It would not surprise me at all that there would be interest in a football stadium," Butts said. "We have been the home of sports teams before, and we have experience working with sports franchises."

Inglewood is centrally situated near multiple freeways and the Los Angeles International Airport, he said. "If there is to be interest by the NFL, we have the most desirable location."

It is risky for an NFL owner to take an obvious step toward Los Angeles for a number of reasons.

First, Kroenke could be creating a lame-duck situation for the Rams in St. Louis, potentially driving down attendance dramatically, as was the case when teams that announced they would move lingered in the Houston and Cleveland markets.

In order to move, the Rams would need more than an escape clause in their lease. They would need to satisfy the NFL's relocation guidelines, which require a good-faith negotiation with St. Louis and/or the state of Missouri on a stadium plan. Because St. Louis has already shown a willingness to spend public money on a venue — something that will not happen in the L.A. market — that would make it more difficult for the Rams to get the NFL's blessing on a move.

The NFL effectively controls the L.A. market, because the league participates heavily in the financing of new stadiums and the awarding of Super Bowls.

In the post-9/11 era, there is a potential Federal Aviation Administration issue with building a stadium at or near Hollywood Park, which sits in the flight path of Los Angeles International Airport. Al Davis, then owner of the L.A. Raiders, got a Hollywood Park proposal approved in the 1990s, but the world was a different place then.

There probably would be a slew of other environmental challenges to building a stadium there — among them traffic and parking issues — particularly next to a large Hollywood Park Tomorrow development.

Already, there are two competing NFL stadium proposals in the Los Angeles area, one next to Staples Center, and another in the City of Industry. Both almost certainly would exert as much political and public pressure as possible to derail a third option.

Finally, a relocation would require a three-quarters majority vote of the league's 32 teams. The fact that the Rams already left this market would be a strike against them. What's more, a team filling the L.A. market would be a detriment to getting stadium deals done in San Diego and Oakland because it would deprive those teams of leverage in their home cities. A coalition of at least nine NFL owners could block any such move.

ChumpChange
01-30-2014, 09:48 PM
Ahhhhh yeah! Although I like having four televised games every Sunday. Having a local team would decrease that to three.

GRADS
01-30-2014, 09:56 PM
I'm not sure an NFL team would get enough fans or support in L.A.

ChumpChange
01-30-2014, 09:58 PM
I'm not sure an NFL team would get enough fans or support in L.A.

Only if they're winning. We don't support losers.

GRADS
01-30-2014, 10:00 PM
Only if they're winning. We don't support losers.

Exactly....the epitome of bandwagoners and fair weather fans. That is evident by all the "Home of the Niners" bars.

HB Vic
01-30-2014, 10:01 PM
Wow I might attend a few games. Bring it!!!

ChumpChange
01-30-2014, 10:02 PM
Inglewood is always up to no good!

McRib
01-30-2014, 10:06 PM
I'm not sure an NFL team would get enough fans or support in L.A.

I disagree. Rams fans were pissed when they left Anaheim. Maybe the ram fanatics will rise again.

HB Vic
01-30-2014, 10:08 PM
I disagree. Rams fans were pissed when they left Anaheim. Maybe the ram fanatics will rise again.

I was one of them. Loved attending Ram's games in Anaheim. Bring it.

McRib
01-30-2014, 10:11 PM
I was one of them. Loved attending Ram's games in Anaheim. Bring it.

Growing up in diamond bar/Pomona my first football game was a Rams game. My dad and I would go often. I'm not a fan of any particular team as I don't care for pro sports but the Rams were a part of my early childhood. I don't care if they come or not but if they do I'll go to a game now and again for sure.

sent from the poor house

HB Vic
01-30-2014, 10:13 PM
Growing up in diamond bar/Pomona my first football game was a Rams game. My dad and I would go often. I'm not a fan of any particular team as I don't care for pro sports but the Rams were a part of my early childhood. I don't care if they come or not but if they do I'll go to a game now and again for sure.

sent from the poor house

Wait, Diamond Bar is not very close to Pomona, which one is it?? :D

McRib
01-30-2014, 10:17 PM
Wait, Diamond Bar is not very close to Pomona, which one is it?? :D

Not very close? Lol. diamond bar was Pomona when I was little then they incorporated in the early 80's. I lived on the north side which put us in the Pomona school district.

ChumpChange
01-30-2014, 10:18 PM
My first game was a Raiders / Chiefs game. Thug life!!!!!

HB Vic
01-30-2014, 10:22 PM
Not very close? Lol. diamond bar was Pomona when I was little then they incorporated in the early 80's. I lived on the north side which put us in the Pomona school district.

I live a very sheltered life LOL

Hye power
01-31-2014, 03:03 AM
The only thing I liked about having the rams in SoCal was being able to see the 49ers locally.

2manymustangs
01-31-2014, 05:34 AM
I disagree. Rams fans were pissed when they left Anaheim. Maybe the ram fanatics will rise again.

PLEASE take them back!!!!

The citizens of Missouri are tired of these sports teams sucking up MILLIONS in TIF/public/municipal funds that could be used for infrastructure repairs/schools...

We are done with them... :thumb:

Paul65K
01-31-2014, 06:14 AM
The only thing I liked about having the rams in SoCal was being able to see the 49ers locally.
X2...........we all need to remember ho Georgia Frontiere totally fucked up the team before moving it to HER hometown.......when they left I was so happy to see them go after what she had dome to the team that I actually called the Rams office and asked if I could help them load the trucks......they promptly hung up on me :grumble

Cigalert
01-31-2014, 06:41 AM
I did a hand drawn cover for the Rams 1994 opening day program. A head on shot of Bettis running up the middle. In return they gave me 2 tickets for 1 game. I scalped them right in front of the offices and went home.

Music to my Ears
01-31-2014, 07:43 AM
I'd love to see any team come to Los Angeles again. Just seems crazy that we don't have an NFL team in the Los Angeles area. It will be interesting to see if a team will get the support that it needs to survive though.

On a side note, I had a pretty good gig the last couple seasons the Rams were in Anaheim. I contracted and played in the Rams Band that was down on the field close to the end zone. Fun way to see the game and get paid too!

2manymustangs
01-31-2014, 07:50 AM
X2...........we all need to remember ho Georgia Frontiere totally fucked up the team before moving it to HER hometown.......when they left I was so happy to see them go after what she had dome to the team that I actually called the Rams office and asked if I could help them load the trucks......they promptly hung up on me :grumble

TAKE THEM BACK, TAKE THEM BACK... PLEASE, before they soak the taxpayers here for another 40-60 million to REVAMP thier "obsolete" new stadium...