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WESTERNAERO
01-14-2014, 06:48 PM
Looks like it might be a good buy. Nice little resto project for somebody.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/4282607047.html
30567

Sharp shooter
01-14-2014, 06:59 PM
He's asking $1,100. You could part it out for more than that.

WESTERNAERO
01-14-2014, 07:01 PM
He's asking $1,100. You could part it out for more than that.

Yeah, I know. I'm half temped to go get it and store it for my kid when he's ready to build his first project.

2manymustangs
01-14-2014, 07:09 PM
Yeah, I know. I'm half temped to go get it and store it for my kid when he's ready to build his first project.

Call and TRY to get dibs on it... I bet you cant get there fast enough to buy it... :)


Thats a CANT LOOSE with the ford gear... Those logs would bolt to a TRUCK head, you could throw ANY truck FE engine in there and save the original 390 for a rainy day...

gn7
01-14-2014, 07:10 PM
He's asking $1,100. You could part it out for more than that.

Mouzer would have that thing broken down and sold before wrenches cooled off.

He's slipping a little lately. Very involved on getting that Stevens hydro done. Never seen him so committed to a project.

WESTERNAERO
01-14-2014, 07:12 PM
Call and TRY to get dibs on it... I bet you cant get there fast enough to buy it... :)


Thats a CANT LOOSE with the ford gear... Those logs would bolt to a TRUCK head, you could throw ANY truck FE engine in there and save the original 390 for a rainy day...
I just have no room for it or I'd already be home with it. It's a nice little piece I thought someone should grab it before it hits the dump.
Sorry 2MM, but that ford would be the first thing gone.

2manymustangs
01-14-2014, 07:15 PM
I just have no room for it or I'd already be home with it. It's a nice little piece I thought someone should grab it before it hits the dump.
Sorry 2MM, but that ford would be the first thing gone.

I will take all of the ford hardware and a few other parts off your hands...

gn7
01-14-2014, 07:15 PM
Call and TRY to get dibs on it... I bet you cant get there fast enough to buy it... :)


Thats a CANT LOOSE with the ford gear... Those logs would bolt to a TRUCK head, you could throw ANY truck FE engine in there and save the original 390 for a rainy day...
Not sure why you feel its a can't lose just because it has FE gear.
But I have a feeling THAT one has some cool stuff. I'd bet it was a 427 boat originally, manifold looks like it could be a MR Sidewinder, and the valve covers are worth a couple bucks. I kind of wish Mouzer would grab that thing and strip it. I'd like to buy a few pieces.

SBS933
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
You can store it in my barn if ya want. Free you can't beat that.

Sharp shooter
01-14-2014, 07:34 PM
Here's a manifold on e-bay with the same ID number as said in the ad, also aluminum and they're asking $2,500 just for the manifold!!!! :schreck:

Very-Rare-1968-Shelby-GT500-Intake- (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-1968-Shelby-GT500-Intake-4V-O-EM-Factory-Original-/151205083246?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item233486786e&vxp=mtr)

And those valve covers look like factory 428 cj valve covers 69-70...?

2manymustangs
01-14-2014, 07:35 PM
You can store it in my barn if ya want. Free you can't beat that.

There ya go Westernaero, do it do it do it do it... :)

And remember, I told you I would take the ford gear FIRST... Ahead of GN7 :violent-smiley-044:

mouzer
01-14-2014, 07:38 PM
Mouzer would have that thing broken down and sold before wrenches cooled off.

He's slipping a little lately. Very involved on getting that Stevens hydro done. Never seen him so committed to a project.


yah booooooooooooooy

2manymustangs
01-14-2014, 07:38 PM
Here's a manifold on e-bay with the same ID number as said in the ad, also aluminum and they're asking $2,500 just for the manifold!!!! :schreck:

Very-Rare-1968-Shelby-GT500-Intake- (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-1968-Shelby-GT500-Intake-4V-O-EM-Factory-Original-/151205083246?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item233486786e&vxp=mtr)

And those valve covers look like factory 428 cj valve covers 69-70...?

There are several applications for that intake, one of which could be a GT500... It's a 428 police intake but was used on several apps...

http://mustangtek.com/Intake/C7AE-9425-F.html

Sharp shooter
01-14-2014, 07:38 PM
yah booooooooooooooy

Let us know if that's really a Shelby Manifold on there.

WESTERNAERO
01-14-2014, 07:42 PM
yah booooooooooooooy

Did you buy it?

2manymustangs
01-14-2014, 07:46 PM
Knock the freeze plugs out and check the distance between the bores in the water jackets... It's quite likely that the block will go 4.130 IF it isnt already there... :)

See what the largest # / letter drill bit is that you can fit between the bores in the water jackets...

GotHalos
01-14-2014, 07:48 PM
Surprised it hasn't sold now that I know more about the Ford that's in it. I came across that on Craigslist months ago.

WESTERNAERO
01-14-2014, 07:51 PM
You can store it in my barn if ya want. Free you can't beat that.

Thanks for the offer, but it would be sitting for couple years before I'd be able to touch it. I wouldn't want to do that to you.

SBS933
01-14-2014, 07:58 PM
Thanks for the offer, but it would be sitting for couple years before I'd be able to touch it. I wouldn't want to do that to you. Push it to the back, I'll store my firewood in front, no big deal. Just don't pick it up in December. Buy It.

2manymustangs
01-14-2014, 08:00 PM
Push it to the back, I'll store my firewood in front, no big deal. Just don't pick it up in December. Buy It.

Westernaero six months from now "damn, I wish I had.................." ;)

mouzer
01-14-2014, 08:01 PM
Did you buy it?

nooooooo 1200 is top dollar u gotta 500 v-drive maybe 700 in parts motor is shot i cant give 390 ford stuff away trailer is shot seats r shot hull is probably delamed to strip and sale i would have to get it for 800 or less AND THE DOG IS OLD

SBS933
01-14-2014, 08:04 PM
I'm 1/2 hour from the I.E.

2manymustangs
01-14-2014, 08:05 PM
nooooooo 1200 is top dollar u gotta 500 v-drive maybe 700 in parts motor is shot i cant give 390 ford stuff away trailer is shot seats r shot hull is probably delamed to strip and sale i would have to get it for 800 or less AND THE DOG IS OLD

Buy it for 800 and give me the ford parts... Ole buddy ole pal O mine...

gn7
01-14-2014, 08:16 PM
Buy it for 800 and give me the ford parts... Ole buddy ole pal O mine...

Why? So they can sit in your barn? Or are you going to build a FE powered GN and tear Joey an new ass with it?

gn7
01-14-2014, 08:19 PM
nooooooo 1200 is top dollar u gotta 500 v-drive maybe 700 in parts motor is shot i cant give 390 ford stuff away trailer is shot seats r shot hull is probably delamed to strip and sale i would have to get it for 800 or less AND THE DOG IS OLD

I'll give you 700 for the motor with everything attached up to the V-drive. You can have the snails and trumpets.
If 2MM wants to pay more for that "priceless" stuff he can have it.
Most of it won't fit a POS cammer anyway. Not sure why he would want it.

mouzer
01-14-2014, 09:10 PM
he said its sold..he is holding it.............if the guy dont show thurs im next in line,,i do know the guy he is holding it for i think and there gonna part it out on ebay i toldem i would givem the 1100 cash tomorrow after he said its got ss tanks in it..he said gotta wait till thurs

2manymustangs
01-14-2014, 09:12 PM
I'll give you 700 for the motor with everything attached up to the V-drive. You can have the snails and trumpets.
If 2MM wants to pay more for that "priceless" stuff he can have it.
Most of it won't fit a POS cammer anyway. Not sure why he would want it.

Build the next best thing... A wedge head FE...

Sharp shooter
01-14-2014, 09:31 PM
There are several applications for that intake, one of which could be a GT500... It's a 428 police intake but was used on several apps...

http://mustangtek.com/Intake/C7AE-9425-F.html

Still somewhat valuable and the valve covers should fetch $150. I had 2 sets of F.E. marine hardware and sold almost all of it. The manifolds are worth at least $100, the logs $50, the front cover, bell housing, motorplates and water pump another $275

Without the rare intake that boat is well worth $1,100 in parts. The trailer's worth $150- $200 especially if it has a title.

CJ Valve covers- Low side $100
Trailer $200
F.E. marine hardware $425
V-Drive $400
Tanks- $100
Cav hardware and steering- $200
Prop is probably bronze junk
Engine... who knows...? Might be worth something, might not.

That's how I see it.

gn7
01-14-2014, 10:56 PM
Build the next best thing... A dump truck FE...

Fixed it for you. REAL Ford boat engines start with a 4 followed by some letters. LR, MR, HR, CJ, SCJ, hell even SOHC if you have nothing else.
Everything else is suitable only for mooring a boat.

mouzer
01-14-2014, 11:11 PM
i dont need the headache anyway.............working on my project only...im trying to not find this stuff......id really rather see a guy get it and restore it........
i will do some parts here and there but there on craigslist ...........but will let you know BOB if the guy calls me

gn7
01-15-2014, 12:19 AM
i dont need the headache anyway.............working on my project only...im trying to not find this stuff......id really rather see a guy get it and restore it........
i will do some parts here and there but there on craigslist ...........but will let you know BOB if the guy calls me

Cool, I plan on flipping it on 2MM. The guy thinks the stuff is near priceless.

WESTERNAERO
01-15-2014, 09:45 AM
If the hull is sound, that boat is perfect for a resto. There's some nice gear in that thing that just needs to be cleaned up. It would be the perfect old school breakfast run put-put. I'm not a purist, but it would be a shame to see that thing stripped.

2manymustangs
01-15-2014, 09:53 AM
Cool, I plan on flipping it on 2MM. The guy thinks the stuff is near priceless.

I know enough to know a $500 aluminum FE intake and a $500 Vdrive box when I see it...

NOW I know where all of the good FE parts went, you guys were stuffing them into bazillions of flatties/cruisers in the 60's and then bad mouthing them after 6,000 hours of service in SALTWATER with no purge of fresh water... :gas:


If the hull is sound, that boat is perfect for a resto. There's some nice gear in that thing that just needs to be cleaned up. It would be the perfect old school breakfast run put-put. I'm not a purist, but it would be a shame to see that thing stripped.

THats what I'm saying, the parts are all intact , just clean her up for now and throw a truck 390 in her and PUT PUT around... SHould be worth twice the price of admission...

Im glad that SOME here have the common sense to NOT rip the FUCK out of her... :happy:

It's a unique piece, something different than the thousands of bowtie boats... Something different than the many B and C and H hulls out there...

gn7
01-15-2014, 11:23 AM
I know enough to know a $500 aluminum FE intake and a $500 Vdrive box when I see it...

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Only if it isn't an Edelbrock or Offy. Then its a 50.00 manifold.

2manymustangs
01-15-2014, 12:14 PM
Only if it isn't an Edelbrock or Offy. Then its a 50.00 manifold.

Cool, Ill take it for $50... How much for the logs/snails/timing cover/bellhousing/mounts/driveshaft tube??? ;)

Sharp shooter
01-15-2014, 12:33 PM
Only if it isn't an Edelbrock or Offy. Then its a 50.00 manifold.

They do list a ford part number in the ad....

gn7
01-15-2014, 01:01 PM
Cool, Ill take it for $50... How much for the logs/snails/timing cover/bellhousing/mounts/driveshaft tube??? ;)
None of it. You would just throw it on the heap with the rest of your shit and never use it

They do list a ford part number in the ad....
I knew what it was from the blocked breather hole on the rear of the manifold. Just keeping the Ford FE guru on his toes.

2manymustangs
01-15-2014, 01:44 PM
None of it. You would just throw it on the heap with the rest of your shit and never use it

I knew what it was from the blocked breather hole on the rear of the manifold. Just keeping the Ford FE guru on his toes.

Mannnnnnnnnnnn, im no guru on anything engine related... BUT I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express...

I am about to become a FOrd 302R block / 347CLEVOR head guru though... The next round of funding came through and the heads are back to the porting shop for bowl/short turn radius work... Now I just need Steel/Straub to spec out a cam for me...

And seriously, with that 390 (in the Lavey) block casting # it could very well go 4.130 bore... :)

gn7
01-15-2014, 01:54 PM
Tisk tisk tisk. You have "Ford" bore sizes on the brain. Nobody bores a FE to 4.130, or a 427 .020 or .030 over any more.
You bore 427s .017 and .027 over, and you bore 390s to 4.125 for the one in a bazillion that can handle it. Try to keep up old guy.

2manymustangs
01-15-2014, 03:13 PM
Tisk tisk tisk. You have "Ford" bore sizes on the brain. Nobody bores a FE to 4.130, or a 427 .020 or .030 over any more.
You bore 427s .017 and .027 over, and you bore 390s to 4.125 for the one in a bazillion that can handle it. Try to keep up old guy.

4.4 or 4.5 on a 427 block??? Sounds like we had better call L.A. Sleeve... :)

gn7
01-16-2014, 01:08 AM
4.4 or 4.5 on a 427 block??? Sounds like we had better call L.A. Sleeve... :)

Hey Einstein, break out your trusty highly tuned slide rule and tell be how you got those numbers from a .017/.027 or even a .020/,030 over bore with a 427 block?

Sharp shooter
01-16-2014, 10:21 AM
Hey Bob, isn't it the early 390 blocks (and other early F.E.'s) and only the ones not affected by core shift that can take the 427 bore?

2manymustangs
01-16-2014, 10:53 AM
Hey Einstein, break out your trusty highly tuned slide rule and tell be how you got those numbers from a .017/.027 or even a .020/,030 over bore with a 427 block?

Here Bob, I will give you the factory tolerance list and let you figga it all out...

427 block "cylinder grade D" upper tolerance limit is 4.2364" diameter. This is a standard 427 bore, the tolerance range of which goes from 4.2328" to 4.2364". From 1958 through about 1967 there were 12 cylinder bore grade steps (12345678ABCD) of .0003" each, and from about 1968 through 1978 there were nine cylinder bore grade steps (123456ABC) with .0004" increments. I believe the number of steps was decreased because newer pistons used better thermal expansion technology.

mouzer
01-16-2014, 12:44 PM
GUY IN AZ DIDNT PICK IT UP SO THE GUY CALLED THIS MORN...my guy just picked it up... it was originaly built for the owner of laveycraft same owner 30 yrs,,, i sold the motor already less marine hardware for $1500 ...AND I NEVER LEFT THE HOUSE !!!!!!! the guy who picked it up wanted the motor,,i worked this dealio for days just in case the guy didnt pick it up from az
has a casale split cASE also nice finishline hardware i will be parting out the rest..let me know if you want anything off it...she will BE parted out over the weekend.....

one boat must die so a few more can live.....................MY NEW YRS RESO..........

WESTERNAERO
01-16-2014, 12:48 PM
GUY IN AZ DIDNT PICK IT UP SO THE GUY CALLED THIS MORN...my guy just picked it up... it was originaly built for the owner of laveycraft same owner 30 yrs,,, i sold the motor already less marine hardware for $1500 ...AND I NEVER LEFT THE HOUSE !!!!!!!
has a casale split cASE also nice finishline hardware i will be parting out the rest..let me know if you want anything off it...she will BE parted out over the weekend.....

one boat must die so a few more can live.....................MY NEW YRS RESO..........
So, is the hull in good shape?

mouzer
01-16-2014, 01:08 PM
whats your email (pm me)and i will send u detailed pics before its stripped

Sharp shooter
01-16-2014, 01:11 PM
one boat must die so a few more can live.....................MY NEW YRS RESO..........

Needs to be your sig. :D

mouzer
01-16-2014, 01:35 PM
i may just do that................:thumb:

gn7
01-16-2014, 01:51 PM
Hey Bob, isn't it the early 390 blocks (and other early F.E.'s) and only the ones not affected by core shift that can take the 427 bore?
No Ford FE block can be bored to 4.23 except 427 blocks, regardless of core shift.
Some, and very very few, 390s can be bore safely to 4.130 (406 and 428), and none of them are pre 1963 390s. There are the yahoos that say you can, but they are making any real power with them. Even then, the pistons have to be custom made. there are NO shelf stock 4.130 pistons anymore. Rings are priced like gold, with a VERY small selection.

Here Bob, I will give you the factory tolerance list and let you figga it all out...

427 block "cylinder grade D" upper tolerance limit is 4.2364" diameter. This is a standard 427 bore, the tolerance range of which goes from 4.2328" to 4.2364". From 1958 through about 1967 there were 12 cylinder bore grade steps (12345678ABCD) of .0003" each, and from about 1968 through 1978 there were nine cylinder bore grade steps (123456ABC) with .0004" increments. I believe the number of steps was decreased because newer pistons used better thermal expansion technology.
Take the largest factory tolerance and add it to a the largest over bore I posted, and come up with a 4.4 or 4.5 bore,
Put up the numbers Bruce, or turn in your Ford lover's hat and STFU

GUY IN AZ DIDNT PICK IT UP SO THE GUY CALLED THIS MORN...my guy just picked it up... it was originaly built for the owner of laveycraft same owner 30 yrs,,, i sold the motor already less marine hardware for $1500 ...AND I NEVER LEFT THE HOUSE !!!!!!! the guy who picked it up wanted the motor,,i worked this dealio for days just in case the guy didnt pick it up from az
has a casale split cASE also nice finishline hardware i will be parting out the rest..let me know if you want anything off it...she will BE parted out over the weekend.....

one boat must die so a few more can live.....................MY NEW YRS RESO..........
1500 for a 390 without the marine gear. That is either the dumbest man alive, or that isn't a 390. In which case he stole the engine.

mouzer
01-16-2014, 02:03 PM
he said something about the manifold is from a 427 so its the good fe motor and he was stoked to get it..

2manymustangs
01-16-2014, 02:09 PM
he said something about the manifold is from a 427 so its the good fe motor and he was stoked to get it..

Oh noooooo Mouz... It's junk, ole Bob said so... ;) A dime a dozen...

mouzer
01-16-2014, 02:23 PM
bare hull and trailer,,,stringers r good floors have spider cracks $150 bare
has a 10* casale theres $700 +

oh well this aint the place for stuff for sale so puting it all on craigslist

WESTERNAERO
01-16-2014, 02:43 PM
bare hull and trailer,,,stringers r good floors have spider cracks $150 bare
has a 10* casale theres $700 +

oh well this aint the place for stuff for sale so puting it all on craigslist

Thought you were sending me pics first?

Sharp shooter
01-16-2014, 04:25 PM
Thought you were sending me pics first?

Yeah mouz, we thought you were sending him pics first. What gives? lol

Wheeler
01-16-2014, 05:57 PM
one boat must die so a few more can live.

I'm about ready to part out the Mandella, what's the market for Hm scoop 'n rocker covers?

30867

mouzer
01-16-2014, 06:02 PM
i just sold same h/m scoop for a 100 and those same fin valve covers for 50

mouzer
01-16-2014, 06:04 PM
Thought you were sending me pics first?


yes will send u pics after the motor is out and stripped...dont want to sell it complete less motor after i saw all the parts..i gotta eat

Sharp shooter
01-16-2014, 06:26 PM
I'm about ready to part out the Mandella, what's the market for Hm scoop 'n rocker covers?

30867

Give me a price for the scoop.

I'd be happy to load you up with boat vids for it too.

2manymustangs
01-16-2014, 06:34 PM
I'm about ready to part out the Mandella, what's the market for Hm scoop 'n rocker covers?

30867

$50 as per GN7 ;)

SnoC653
01-16-2014, 06:38 PM
Here Bob, I will give you the factory tolerance list and let you figga it all out...

427 block "cylinder grade D" upper tolerance limit is 4.2364" diameter. This is a standard 427 bore, the tolerance range of which goes from 4.2328" to 4.2364". From 1958 through about 1967 there were 12 cylinder bore grade steps (12345678ABCD) of .0003" each, and from about 1968 through 1978 there were nine cylinder bore grade steps (123456ABC) with .0004" increments. I believe the number of steps was decreased because newer pistons used better thermal expansion technology.

So where does a non-Ford guy look on an old 390 to find out what grade it is? I have a couple laying out in the barn. If I remember right, one is a 68 bock and the other is an early 70s.

2manymustangs
01-16-2014, 07:10 PM
So where does a non-Ford guy look on an old 390 to find out what grade it is? I have a couple laying out in the barn. If I remember right, one is a 68 bock and the other is an early 70s.

Obviously knowing the origin or history of the engine helps... Knowing what kind of heads are OR were on the engine gives you some clues but most importantly pull out the freeze plugs (which you will do anyway) and check the gaps between the cyls, you can use drill bit shanks to get an idea of the gap (like a feeler gauge)...

Read here and go see what you have :) : http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-639277.html

gn7
01-16-2014, 07:37 PM
he said something about the manifold is from a 427 so its the good fe motor and he was stoked to get it..
Son he MIGHY have paid 1500 for a 500 manifold sitting on a broken 100 dollar 390. Sounds like a deal 2MM would make.

Oh noooooo Mouz... It's junk, ole Bob said so... ;) A dime a dozen...
The manifolds not. Tell us EVERYTHING ELSE you know about the deal on the motor Bruce. Is it MR or a LR. Steel crank or cast. Cap screw rods or thru bolt.


I'm about ready to part out the Mandella, what's the market for Hm scoop 'n rocker covers?

30867
Scoop is worth almost as much as the manifold and carbs sitting under it.

i just sold same h/m scoop for a 100 and those same fin valve covers for 50

You gave it away. If you called me, you could have tripled you money on both. Maybe 4 times on the valve covers if they were HM


So where does a non-Ford guy look on an old 390 to find out what grade it is? I have a couple laying out in the barn. If I remember right, one is a 68 bock and the other is an early 70s.

The difference between 390s aside from numbers to a collect is not worth talking about. Very Very Very few 390s are much different than any other 390. 391 truck blocks, and few HiPo blocks have thicker walls that allow an additional .020 bore, and the main webs are a little stronger. Most 390s can't be built with enough power to hurt themselves anyway with some form of power adder or stroking the shit of them.

Unless of course you are buying the block from 2MM. He has the inside track to all the really cool FE stuff, like blocks that can take a 4.5 bore, But then he has already demonstrated he can't add or subtract.

gn7
01-16-2014, 07:41 PM
$50 as per GN7 ;)

Getting pretty fucking tired of you putting words in my mouth dickhead.

You work out those bore numbers for me yet genius? Or would you like me to do it for you, and show you for the moron you are.

SnoC653
01-16-2014, 09:00 PM
Son he MIGHY have paid 1500 for a 500 manifold sitting on a broken 100 dollar 390. Sounds like a deal 2MM would make.

The manifolds not. Tell us EVERYTHING ELSE you know about the deal on the motor Bruce. Is it MR or a LR. Steel crank or cast. Cap screw rods or thru bolt.


Scoop is worth almost as much as the manifold and carbs sitting under it.


You gave it away. If you called me, you could have tripled you money on both. Maybe 4 times on the valve covers if they were HM



The difference between 390s aside from numbers to a collect is not worth talking about. Very Very Very few 390s are much different than any other 390. 391 truck blocks, and few HiPo blocks have thicker walls that allow an additional .020 bore, and the main webs are a little stronger. Most 390s can't be built with enough power to hurt themselves anyway with some form of power adder or stroking the shit of them.

Unless of course you are buying the block from 2MM. He has the inside track to all the really cool FE stuff, like blocks that can take a 4.5 bore, But then he has already demonstrated he can't add or subtract.

LOL not buying the block. The last owner of my house was into 69 Cougars with 428s. He made a couple 428 convertibles and restored another one that was an original 428 Ram Jet car. I think the one 390 was in one of the Cougars originally. It is a car motor from what I was told. But, I was told they aren't worth building for boats, so it just sits in the barn.

gn7
01-16-2014, 11:00 PM
LOL not buying the block. The last owner of my house was into 69 Cougars with 428s. He made a couple 428 convertibles and restored another one that was an original 428 Ram Jet car. I think the one 390 was in one of the Cougars originally. It is a car motor from what I was told. But, I was told they aren't worth building for boats, so it just sits in the barn.

I understand. 390s are worth rebuilding for boats. I would never even consider sticking a FE in a newer boat like a B boat. I don't think I could make myself put one in something like a bubble deck Sanger. A 60s lake cruiser, no problem. Most of the older boats can't handle much more power a 390 today can make. If you can find a 428 crank cheap, so much the better.
I fought valiantly to include 360 FE truck engines that are dirt cheap into the SE class. It would have made the Mopars that much easier to clear thru as well. Stop the BS of bore and stroke as just require it be under 366 or 370, factory heads with a restricted valve size for that head, and be done with it. Who gives a shit if its a big block or small block. You bore a truck 360 .010 over and its the same bore stroke as a 351W or SBC with a 350 crank bored .060 over. If cost was the prime mover for the class, then not allowing FEs was a fatal flaw in the thinking. 360 truck engines sell for scrap weight, They have yet to build a 351W with factory heads that could hang with a 360.

One of the hardest running FEs I ever built was a 360 crank in a 390 bored to 4.125. It hauled ass and spun 8000 and kicked a lot of small black ass until it cracked a cylinder wall. And I did say small block ass, not BBC ass. But it was only 374 ci

390s are not worth a tinkers damn as a performance engine, but they scream nostalgia if dressed properly. 366 Chevy truck engines are a waste of iron, but if you drop a roots and hat on one, its still a cool looking engine.

GN 22
01-17-2014, 05:53 PM
go on E bay and look what those scoops are going for, I have one at home along with the knurled nuts to hold it down . Seen them go for over $ 1500 .

HB Vic
01-17-2014, 05:56 PM
go on E bay and look what those scoops are going for, I have one at home along with the knurled nuts to hold it down . Seen them go for over $ 1500 .

Welcome to www.hotboat.com (http://www.hotboat.com) !!

mouzer
01-17-2014, 06:37 PM
i just sign up for ebay...guess for now on im gonna tripple my money..gonna put all my parts on there on 5 day sales..ive had 2 of those scoops and like i said i sold them for $150

gn7
01-17-2014, 11:32 PM
i just sign up for ebay...guess for now on im gonna tripple my money..gonna put all my parts on there on 5 day sales..ive had 2 of those scoops and like i said i sold them for $150

That's because the majority of your clientele is the "poe boyz" and I am sure they appreciate it. Its a cool thing you do Mike. It helps keep the sport alive and old boats on the water. Its why there were dozens that jumped down PB admins throat when they tried to shut you down. Never change what you do. But some things like that scoop, or a tri power, specially with original crabs, or a Ford dual quad manifold, or even a 427 Ford if you should trip over one, is something that will make you more money on Ebay

390s with Glenwood manifolds and Nicson timing covers you can ship to 2MM. He will trade you for mini gold ingots because he thinks anything FE is worth gold.

Eli
01-19-2014, 09:38 AM
I've been following this thread and while my 2 cents doesn't matter...I have to say, you guys are unreal with all of your knowledge. It's so impressive.


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gn7
01-19-2014, 01:09 PM
I've been following this thread and while my 2 cents doesn't matter...I have to say, you guys are unreal with all of your knowledge. It's so impressive.


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Entire boats get built here, not bought:happy: