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MMD
11-07-2012, 12:58 PM
In case you weren't paying attention to the California election results you might want to now. Before it's too late (it might just be too late).

Major bad news (and this isn't all of it):

1. California Democrats seize super majorities in both houses of Legislature
Ruling party will be able to raise taxes without Republican support. The Democrats appear to have seized a super majority in both legislative chambers, which would give them the ability to approve taxes without Republican support.

Under the radar, with all the attention focused on Prop 30, California voters ushered in a new era in state politics not seen in nearly eight decades: Now, for the first time since 1933, the ruling party would have two-thirds majorities in both chambers and free reign in a startling transformation that neuters Republicans in Sacramento to a new level of irrelevancy.

2. California tax measures: Props. 30 and 39 emerge victorious; Prop 38 loses

Overcoming decades of anti-tax sentiment in California, Gov. Jerry Brown's Proposition 30 -- billed as a tax hike to rescue the state's schools -- won in surprisingly decisive fashion Tuesday. "I know a lot of people had some doubts and some questions: Can you really go to the people and ask them to vote for a tax?'' Brown told supporters Tuesday night. "Here we are ... We have a vote of the people, I think the only state in the country that says let's raise our taxes, for our kids for our schools, and for our California dream.'' Proposition 38, a competing tax-for-schools measure, was soundly defeated with just 27.7 percent of the vote, while...

3. Proposition 39, which forces big businesses to pay more taxes, won comfortably with 60.1 percent of the vote. Proposition 39, passed as expected, closing a loophole that allowed big multistate businesses to pay fewer state taxes. The result could add $1 billion a year in new revenues to the state. Bay Area hedge fund manager Tom Steyer bankrolled nearly the entire $39 million campaign for Proposition 39.

4. Proposition 32: Measure that would restrict union donations is defeated. Labor groups won a resounding victory by defeating Proposition 32, a measure that would have altered the political landscape had it succeeded. Labor leaders had a message for the outside groups who poured millions of dollars into Proposition 32, which would have curbed their ability to collect political cash.


And LA County has passed Measure J requiring porn movie actors to wear condoms and use dental dams. So that means the porn movie shoots will move out of LA County to other locations taking the money and jobs with them.

Sorry if this violates the rules here (political posting) but it might be time to take your family and your boat out of California unless you like these results.

Bobby V
11-07-2012, 03:42 PM
I have been a California for 52 years. I'm not going to move over a couple props.

HB Vic
11-07-2012, 03:45 PM
Hey MMD when are you leaving??

YoPengo
11-07-2012, 03:48 PM
Hey MMD when are you leaving??

You attract all the riffraff. :encouragement:

HB Vic
11-07-2012, 03:51 PM
You attract all the riffraff. :encouragement:

I usually get along fine with riffraff, my kinda folk.

But if you're gonna tell others to leave, I think you should lead the way. Just my opinion of course ;)

YoPengo
11-07-2012, 03:54 PM
I usually get along fine with riffraff, my kinda folk.

But if you're gonna tell others to leave, I think you should lead the way. Just my opinion of course ;)

I guess Im riffraff.... I think. :devilish:

Lots of old names from the past in this joint.

HB Vic
11-07-2012, 03:59 PM
I guess Im riffraff.... I think. :devilish:

Lots of old names from the past in this joint.

If you drink beer or drink out of a red solo cup, overfill your wine or champagne glass, eat taco's, use a curse word on occasion, and refuse to eat with chop sticks, you are most certainly riffraff :apathy:

Ziggy
11-07-2012, 05:35 PM
If you drink beer or drink out of a red solo cup, overfill your wine or champagne glass, eat taco's, use a curse word on occasion, and refuse to eat with chop sticks, you are most certainly riffraff :apathy:

Damn, I never realized until now what I was :D:D

Napanutt
11-07-2012, 06:34 PM
"riff raff, always good for a laugh"
"riff raff, go on laugh yourself in half"

Old school riff raff right there! :)

Wendi
11-07-2012, 09:37 PM
I never refuse chop sticks so I'd say I'm not part of the RIF RAF crew...

Dribble
11-08-2012, 10:02 AM
And LA County has passed Measure J requiring porn movie actors to wear condoms and use dental dams. So that means the porn movie shoots will move out of LA County to other locations taking the money and jobs with them.



I just read that whole measure (measure B BTW) and nowhere does it mention dental dams, just condoms.

GotHalos
11-08-2012, 02:36 PM
Lol, i think ill tough it out as well.

niceguyeddie
11-08-2012, 04:35 PM
Anyone catch that Laker game last night?

MMD
11-08-2012, 11:18 PM
I have been a California for 52 years. I'm not going to move over a couple props.

Funny but it's not just about "a couple props" - you ignored the part about the increase in sales tax and the Democrats having a super-majority which means they can do whatever they want without concern for votes by the other party.


Hey MMD when are you leaving??

I'm working on it but don't worry, I'll still be here :LMAOsmiley:

Bobby V
11-08-2012, 11:30 PM
Funny but it's not just about "a couple props" - you ignored the part about the increase in sales tax and the Democrats having a super-majority which means they can do whatever they want without concern for votes by the other party.
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I'm still not leaving. :smilies_mit_hut029:

rschap1
11-09-2012, 03:58 AM
You would really think lawmakers everywhere would have better things to direct their attention too...


:(

Guess the porn industry will be relocating and taking their revenue with them, or that would be my guess.

Dribble
11-09-2012, 11:30 AM
Not sure why you can't find "dental dams" but it's in most every report...



I may be in every report but it is nowhere in the language of the measure. If it is please point me to it. I believe that the media picked up on the AVN response which read more into it than what is actually there. Don't get me wrong, I think the measure sucks (pun intended) and I also believe there is a chance it can be defeated in court, but I am a stickler for accuracy and the statement regarding dental dams as well as the industry sponsored the dramatization you posted is inaccurate.

BTW I won't be leaving California over this either.

framer1
11-10-2012, 05:59 PM
Don't really care about porn movies one way or another but i'm just about to leave CA for a red state. I'm tried of giving blue states my tax dollars.......

rioracr
11-10-2012, 06:31 PM
someone has to pay for that bullet train, as long as they leave prop 13 alone, people should be able to handle covering all the rest

framer1
11-11-2012, 07:41 AM
someone has to pay for that bullet train, as long as they leave prop 13 alone, people should be able to handle covering all the rest

That's a big if about prop 13, especially with a democrat super majority.........

Dribble
11-11-2012, 10:41 AM
That's a big if about prop 13, especially with a democrat super majority.........

They don't need to mess with prop 13, they have Melo Roos.

framer1
11-11-2012, 01:47 PM
They don't need to mess with prop 13, they have Melo Roos.


Good point......

Mandelon
11-13-2012, 02:02 PM
Come on now. With the dems in absolute control of california, the rest of the nation can just watch us go! Zooooooooom Everything is gonna be fixed now. No more stupid republicans gridlocking the assembly. Its gonna by utopia!

MMD
11-13-2012, 05:46 PM
For those who don't believe me or aren't paying attention maybe this will help you understand some of what California is facing (and this is only SoCal):

http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/11/13/los-angeles-teeters-on-the-brink-of-bankruptcy-2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

Be sure to read some of the comments below the article.

HB Vic
11-13-2012, 06:45 PM
For those who don't believe me or aren't paying attention maybe this will help you understand some of what California is facing (and this is only SoCal):

http://www.calwatchdog.com/2012/11/13/los-angeles-teeters-on-the-brink-of-bankruptcy-2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

Be sure to read some of the comments below the article.

Much like the dinosaurs, adapt or go extinct. I am not happy about a lot of this but I'll be damned if I'm gonna let a bunch of politicians ruin my parade.

Fuck em.

Yes I used a curse word lol

HB