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GRADS
09-30-2013, 07:25 PM
I received an email at 2 a.m. this morning from "someone" interested in my boat. I recognized the name of "someone" as being a boat broker in Havasu. Why give me a bullshit story about how your wife has to have an open bow if you are just going to resell it? And then to say my boat isn't user friendly because it's not an open bow? A lot of people especially in NoRCal want closed bow boats. This is the same guy that pissed off a bunch of people on another website.

Here is the email....

"So what are you willing to take for the boat? Ive seen it listed up forever, I like the colors but I have to have an open bow, the wife wont let me have a closed bow. The boat is just not user friendly. Ive spoken with Bob at shockwave and they want $7k to update/convert it to an open bow. So that would put me at an offer of around $32-33k cash so I'd be at $40k when all is said and done. Otherwise, lets face it, its winter time and you'll be sititng on it all winter again, and it still may not sell after that because not many prople want to deal with converting a boat to open bow."

HB Vic
09-30-2013, 07:31 PM
That's exactly why I hate selling anything. It doesn't matter what it is, people will try to screw you out of every last penny. On the other hand, they may also be saving you from owning it forever. So I try to ignore their comments and skip to the chase, am I willing to let it go for that # or not? Simple. If you are, sell the A hole your boat. If you're not, tell the A hole to pound sand :D

Sharpy
09-30-2013, 07:32 PM
If it's not what I'm looking for as a buyer, I wouldn't contact the seller at all. I'd take this email as a half-n-insult and tell the emailer there's a big bag of dicks coming his way for him to snack on while he boat shops! :D

GRADS
09-30-2013, 07:36 PM
tell the emailer there's a big bag of dicks coming his way for him to snack on while he boat shops! :D

I'm sure some of the Havasu people on here know him. Maybe I could have them hand deliver to this guy. ;)

Stainless
09-30-2013, 07:37 PM
Fuck him Grads...your boat is one of the most pristine boats for sale I have ever seen!


Carbon aka Stainless

ChumpChange
09-30-2013, 07:37 PM
I hate when people try to justify their offer. Like I care what they need to do to make it their own. I'd have more respect if they just throw out the number. It's not my problem it's not exactly what they are looking for.

FormulaZR
09-30-2013, 07:37 PM
Ask him how much a divorce would cost? Then he'd be able to get your closed bow and not have to give Shockwave any money have it converted to open bow.

HB Vic
09-30-2013, 07:45 PM
Why not make it an open bow for him DIY?? :D

2FORCEFULL
09-30-2013, 07:48 PM
heres my take here, you advertised to get some one interested in buying you boat,

do you really care what they want it for???

you have someone offering 33k... thats a lot of money,,, may be not enough...

but it is an offer,,



just tell him what you have to have for or you will just keep it..



did you get a lot of higher cash offers???

GRADS
09-30-2013, 07:48 PM
I was going to respond and say that his wife told me that she liked the bed in my CLOSED bow. ;)

GRADS
09-30-2013, 07:48 PM
I've turned down 2 offers of 39K cash. I don't have to sell it. I really want a Daytona but if I have to drive this turn key boat another summer it's not the end of the world.

Cole Trickle
09-30-2013, 07:52 PM
Quick and simple....

Tell him your not interested in selling the boat at the price point he offered....

Thanks for the offer but I'm going to pass.





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2FORCEFULL
09-30-2013, 07:52 PM
I've turned down 2 offers of 39K cash. I don't have to sell it. I really want a Daytona but if I have to drive this turn key boat another summer it's not the end of the world.

thas the exact reply I would give him....

H2oSki2Fast
09-30-2013, 07:53 PM
Someone rubbed you the wrong way? Oh the irony.

2FORCEFULL
09-30-2013, 07:54 PM
I was going to respond and say that his wife told me that she liked the bed in my condo. ;)

fixed it

icb1
09-30-2013, 08:16 PM
I deal with people like that all the time and its insulting at best. They are pulling dick moves like that hoping someone will fall prey to there tactics just so they can score a deal. What they dont realize is that they are screwing up this industry by driving prices down while costs go up. Its reasonable to negociate with someone but dont have to be an a.. Hole about it, im sure shockwave will be happy to build him an openbow but they dont want to pay for it.......
Good luck with the sale.....and your right people do want closed bows i get inquiries all the time.

Plaster Dave
09-30-2013, 08:29 PM
I just laugh and move on with my day. It's the nature of the game when selling stuff. I'm sure you try and get a good deal when you are buying.

270
09-30-2013, 08:35 PM
Quick and simple....

Tell him your not interested in selling the boat at the price point he offered....

Thanks for the offer but I'm going to pass.

I think delete is even quicker and simpler. :smile:

ChumpChange
09-30-2013, 08:39 PM
I think delete is even quicker and simpler. :smile:

Or he can send him a picture.

niceguyeddie
09-30-2013, 10:24 PM
I hate when people try to justify their offer. Like I care what they need to do to make it their own. I'd have more respect if they just throw out the number. It's not my problem it's not exactly what they are looking for.

Bingo!


Grads,

When I sold my truck I had 4-5 guys tell me they wanted a 4x4 and that my truck wasn't worth what I was asking. I told them all the same thing, "Anything else or are you done wasting my time now?". I ended up selling it for list price to the first guy that actually CAME to look at it. I don't take phone, email or text offers serious.

It really just comes down to how bad you want to sell something. Your boat is clean and worth just a much to the guy who wants a closed bow over open. I drove over 1000 miles because I don't like open bow boats and couldn't fine a closed anywhere closer to me for the price. It too was for sale for a while (I think about a year) and that guy wasn't budging on price much either because he believed in what it's worth. I think your Shockwave is reasonably priced! Fuck that guy and his "picky wife".

GRADS
09-30-2013, 10:40 PM
Who knows if this guy is even married??? He's a low baller boat broker out of Havasu....and he should of been honest and said that. Why make up some bullshit story? He was trying to sell a DCB on RDP and threatened to kick everyone ass that said he was shady.

The Doctor
09-30-2013, 11:14 PM
I have no dog in this fight but I negotiate for a living. One principal that has lasted through the ages and always proved true is this:

"Who ever is the least motivated to do the deal, will always win the negotiation."

314joey
10-01-2013, 06:15 AM
I guess I've sold so much stuff in my life this kind of stuff just rolls off me, something similar happened to me and I tell the guy, "this is what I'm selling and at this price, your loss"
guys like that aren't worth your time to get upset, blow it off.

Eli
10-01-2013, 06:20 AM
Grads tell him

It's obvious my boat is out of your league. Good luck on your search! It's going to be tough finding a boat as nice as mine in your price range. Happy hunting!


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Sandeggo
10-01-2013, 06:39 AM
I just went through having my boat up for sale and people were offering 2k less than asking without even coming to see it. Once they'd get here I know they'd offer even less. I didn't HAVE to sell it and have too much blood and sweat in it to give it away.

Paul65K
10-01-2013, 07:36 AM
Doc and Steve have it right.....any time you allow emotion to affect you in a negotiation you have already lost.



Almost nothing is actually worth what a seller thinks he wants to get
Almost nothing is priced where a buyer thinks they should pay


The key to any and every successful negotiation is to find a place where both parties can agree and walk away think they got what they wanted.....or at least are willing to pay.

If you know for sure this guy is a "douche" then take the emotion out and know what you're dealing with; either respond unemotionally with your number or move on......anything else is just a waste of your time/life/bandwidth.:rant:

HB Vic
10-01-2013, 07:55 AM
Doc and Steve have it right.....any time you allow emotion to affect you in a negotiation you have already lost.



Almost nothing is actually worth what a seller thinks he wants to get
Almost nothing is priced where a buyer thinks they should pay


The key to any and every successful negotiation is to find a place where both parties can agree and walk away think they got what they wanted.....or at least are willing to pay.

If you know for sure this guy is a "douche" then take the emotion out and know what you're dealing with; either respond unemotionally with your number or move on......anything else is just a waste of your time/life/bandwidth.:rant:

Bingo. Don't let your emotions get in the way of sound business decisions. Remove the emotion and you'll see these things for what they really are, a business transaction.

Havasu Party Bus
10-01-2013, 08:13 AM
If i'm selling something on Criags List i put.
Bla bla bla for sale $0000.00 or OBO in my favor.
Low Ballers need not call.

It's been work for me and i've been getting what i was asking for and at times a little more.

Eli
10-01-2013, 08:14 AM
Doc and Steve have it right.....any time you allow emotion to affect you in a negotiation you have already lost.



Almost nothing is actually worth what a seller thinks he wants to get
Almost nothing is priced where a buyer thinks they should pay


The key to any and every successful negotiation is to find a place where both parties can agree and walk away think they got what they wanted.....or at least are willing to pay.

If you know for sure this guy is a "douche" then take the emotion out and know what you're dealing with; either respond unemotionally with your number or move on......anything else is just a waste of your time/life/bandwidth.:rant:

There's nothing wrong with emotions :D


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Paul65K
10-01-2013, 08:59 AM
There's nothing wrong with emotions :D


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Women......sheeezzz!!!! :D


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Ziggy
10-01-2013, 09:49 AM
I'd just respond with enough to let him know you know who he is...then give him the number you will accept.
:)

From my POS T-mobile thingie

Eli
10-01-2013, 10:52 AM
I'd just respond with enough to let him know you know who he is...then give him the number you will accept.
:)

From my POS T-mobile thingie

Just tell him to

FUCK OFF!

Ok bad idea lol


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rivergames
10-01-2013, 10:55 AM
I don't think the email was that bad until the last part of it. I don't think there is anything wrong with making an offer... But that last deal about "winter" and "not selling" is kind of bullshit

Ziggy
10-01-2013, 11:32 AM
Just tell him to

FUCK OFF!

Ok bad idea lol


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You certainly could but it usually is less abrasive from attractive women. ;) :)

Eli
10-01-2013, 11:44 AM
You certainly could but it usually is less abrasive from attractive women. ;) :)

Well then it's very abrasive coming from me!!!




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Ziggy
10-01-2013, 12:04 PM
:signhuh: :rolleyes:
Yeah Right