Can we talk Schiada here???

[2FORCEFULL]

if a guy was to get a schiada,,,

what would be the perfect, or most desireable set up

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[WESTERNAERO]

The perfect setup would to have a Spectra/Howard/Dimarco bottom. :wink2::wink2:

[2FORCEFULL]

The perfect setup would to have a Spectra/Howard/Dimarco bottom. :wink2::wink2:

I ment power and gears...trans

[Mitch]

Why not start off with the best ...... Hallett Vector !!! :)

[HB Vic]

Why not start off with the best ...... Hallett Vector !!! :)

I'm glad you said that and not me. I like Schiada's, but down the road when I'm tired of cranking on the wheel to get my baby to turn, more than likely we'll look at the Vectors. I also know where there's an amazing Howard I'd like to have. Just wish I had more room to put good stuff :D

[Cole Trickle]

I almost bought a 22 v drive while drunk one night at the river....I really liked the boat and would have gone 17k and some morgan:D

I'm not sure where the boat is now...lol

[HB Vic]

I almost bought a 22 v drive while drunk one night at the river....I really liked the boat and would have gone 17k and some morgan:D

I'm not sure where the boat is now...lol

Did I tell you I am very, very concerned about Chucky's well being. Can you have him call me please? No recordings either :D

[Cole Trickle]

Did I tell you I am very, very concerned about Chucky's well being. Can you have him call me please? No recordings either :D

I told you I haven't seen him.....I would check with his brother i have nothing to gain from him "retiring"...lol

[She's Mine]

Perfect setup for a Schiada would be at the bottom of the lake... lol j/k... well maybe kidding.:boxing8:

[2FORCEFULL]

I almost bought a 22 v drive while drunk one night at the river....I really liked the boat and would have gone 17k and some morgan:D

I'm not sure where the boat is now...lol

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[WESTERNAERO]

Perfect setup for a Schiada would be at the bottom of the lake... lol j/k... well maybe kidding.:boxing8:

Ouch, that's gotta hurt some of the Schiada owners.:D

[ChumpChange]

I almost bought a 22 v drive while drunk one night at the river....

Been there, done that! Good thing banks aren't open at night!

[Slacker]

Man 2FF that one there in the pics sure is clean, really like it!

[Mitch]

Appears there was nothing to talk about ?:)

[Wendi]

Appears there was nothing to talk about ?:)

Haha LOL! Can we talk about the best tacos EVER!!!

[WESTERNAERO]

I'll pass, I get in trouble every time I talk about tacos.:gathering:

[WESTERNAERO]

I would like to know, is the vector bottom exactly the same as a schiada, or are there some subtle differences?

[Wendi]

I'll pass, I get in trouble every time I talk about tacos.:gathering:

Haha WA you've got a dirty mind

[WESTERNAERO]

Haha WA you've got a dirty mind

Me? Nope, not me, I wasn't there, I saw nothing, I don't know what you're talking about. My mind is clean, smooth and shaved clean. :wink2::wink2:

[Wendi]

Me? Nope, not me, I wasn't there, I saw nothing, I don't know what you're talking about. My mind is clean, smooth and shaved clean. :wink2::wink2:

I never saw nothing LOL

[Mitch]

Haha LOL! Can we talk about the best tacos EVER!!!

About time for a taco feed ! Its a toss up as far as the best taco goes :)

[Mitch]

I would like to know, is the vector bottom exactly the same as a schiada, or are there some subtle differences?

Thanks for asking the Hallett is superior .. :) did all this talk about bottoms put your mind in the gutter ? :)

[WESTERNAERO]

did all this talk about bottoms put your mind in the gutter ? :)

As far as my wife and her friends are concerned, it's always in the gutter. There maybe something to their opinion but I have accountable deniability so screw em. Damn there it is again.

[WESTERNAERO]

Thanks for asking the Hallett is superior .. :) :)

Yeah, of course it is. Is it the same or did Hallett change something?

[Stainless]

Serious question that I never felt comfortable to ask before bc I didn't want to be eaten alive, what makes a Schiada so cool? Is it the build quality? Durability? Ride? Efficiency with a given power plant? It's the most discussed brand I see, just trying to get real Schiada insight. :)
I'm a cat guy if that helps to understand my disconnect.

[WESTERNAERO]

I don't have a schiada, but, everyone I've seen is built with it seems perfection in mind. The glass and rigging on the ones I've seen are near perfect. Now, of those that I've seen, I'm not sure if if they were rigged at schiada or some place like prime or GT, but they were stunning.
They also have very sharp entry to them and 15 deg of "V" compared to a spectra/Howard 12.5 deg. Obviously this is going to go through ruff stuff better.

[WESTERNAERO]

I have never seen a vectors bottom and always wondered if they were the same or if something was changed, like strakes or an added pad etc.

[Mitch]

The Schiada is a full v the Hallett V Drive hull has a one inch dropped keel that runs the majority of the lenghth of the keel ,the boat actually climbs up on the pad about 50 . The chines are a different design and come into the bow differently I have one of each in my garage when you are in town stop and take a look .

[HB Vic]

Mitch what about Howards?? How do they compare with big HP??

[WESTERNAERO]

The Schiada is a full v the Hallett V Drive hull has a one inch dropped keel that runs the majority of the lenghth of the keel ,the boat actually climbs up on the pad about 50 . The chines are a different design and come into the bow differently I have one of each in my garage when you are in town stop and take a look .

So they're not a direct splash, or maybe they were but with a lot of mods? Do the Halletts turn better with the different chines?

[Cole Trickle]

Schiada is the 57 bel air of boats. Its a hot rod that owners will throw ridiculous power and $$$ at.

They are solid hulls and ride very good for there size. I have seen older schiada that were well rigged as well as boats that were nothing special. I would wager the quality started getting really good in the last 15-20 years.

There more a boutique builder....you place an order with a huge deposit and they call you when its ready.

Lots of talented riggers have worked there magic on blank hulls.

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[Stainless]

Schiada is the 57 bel air of boats. Its a hot rod that owners will throw ridiculous power and $$$ at.

They are solid hulls and ride very good for there size. I have seen older schiada that were well rigged as well as boats that were nothing special. I would wager the quality started getting really good in the last 15-20 years.

There more a boutique builder....you place an order with a huge deposit and they call you when its ready.

Lots of talented riggers have worked there magic on blank hulls.

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Kinda what I thought CT, all those that own or have owned are very proud!

[Mitch]

Mitch what about Howards?? How do they compare with big HP??

There is a white and red Howard with a big blown injected motor here in Parker that hauls ass I would say properly set up the flatter the bottom the faster like a Rayson Craft 21 . Tub of Fools still holds the GN Kilo record...

[78Southwind]

The perfect setup would to have a Spectra/Howard/Dimarco bottom. :wink2::wink2:

That's only if you want to go fast. ;)

[Cole Trickle]

Kinda what I thought CT, all those that own or have owned are very proud!

A big HP v drive in any variety is a stupid rush...

People spend years re building boats to prices of art work. I would love to have one as my third boat if I won the lottery..lol

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[HB Vic]

There is a white and red Howard with a big blown injected motor here in Parker that hauls ass I would say properly set up the flatter the bottom the faster like a Rayson Craft 21 . Tub of Fools still holds the GN Kilo record...

Is it a Riverland boat?

[Mitch]

So they're not a direct splash, or maybe they were but with a lot of mods? Do the Halletts turn better with the different chines?

I cant honestly say if they were a splash or not i appears that its a highly modified schiada bottom ,when you look at them side by side visually there are alot of differences even in the entry and bow. I have driven and owned both and do not think there is much of a difference in ride or handling example Mike Gs "RexOnes" 21 Schiada and my Hallett are rigged basically identical with the exception of the bottom ,they ride and drive about the same.The Hallett is lighter you can feel it under acceleration and it flexs in rough water The Hallett takes some work getting it off the pad and back in the water going into a fast turn you need to set it down before you enter , hope this helps ...

[The Doctor]

I keep seeing these Schiadas in the winner's circles of the ski races, over and over. I suppose nobody told these guys about all these superior hulls, of which you speak. I bought a 21 RC that we have thoroughly enjoyed and the people I purchased it from drove away with a license plate "F2 Champ" and it was indeed the world champ who skied behind that old barge of ours.

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[gn7]

I keep seeing these Schiadas in the winner's circles of the ski races, over and over. I suppose nobody told these guys about all these superior hulls, of which you speak. I bought a 21 RC that we have thoroughly enjoyed and the people I purchased it from drove away with a license plate "F2 Champ" and it was indeed the world champ who skied behind that old barge of ours.


Schiadas and Halletts are what you drive to sit in and watch the Rayson Crafts race.

[GRADS]

Schiadas are cool if you're a hippy.:sheep1:

[2FORCEFULL]

I'm not sure what the fascination is for me with schiadas , but I know I have always wanted to have one, and when I get one there is always a reason I can't keep it...
we need a boat to 8 people just to get to the lake with my 3 sons,... economy has them boatless so we have to (get to) haul every one in our boat...

we have to go the cheeper route to own 2 boats ..one for havasu and one for vegas...we currently have a cheetah wild cat being built with a 525 power
and a 240 hallett with 525 power...

my last schiada 22'was powered by a mild built 468, velvet drive w/4% gears...perfect ski set up... the one before 21rc had a billy dunsmore 460 twin turbo, turbo 400 trans.. that boat was cool... it put it on it's nose some where in the 90's... scared the foc out of me... learned real quick to come off the throttle that fast again...

but after riding in Andrews 21 with a wipple got me thinking schiada again...

so would you go bigger C.I., blower , turbo?? 177251772617727

[Joker]

A good friend had a 22 with twin turbos in Blythe and that was a fast and beautiful boat.

[Mitch]

Serious question that I never felt comfortable to ask before bc I didn't want to be eaten alive, what makes a Schiada so cool? Is it the build quality? Durability? Ride? Efficiency with a given power plant? It's the most discussed brand I see, just trying to get real Schiada insight. :)
I'm a cat guy if that helps to understand my disconnect.

Strawberry Koolaide ....

[SFV2RVR]

I thought the title of the thread was "Can we talk Schiada's here?" Why is it every thread someone has to chime in with 10 different brand boats that are better than the one that was asked about? You guys should start your own thread to fuck up and talk about the shit boxes that you think are so great! For a river, pleasure or ski race boat the Schiada is tough to beat. Especially in a V drive! I have a 79' RC that I just finished a 3 year restoration on.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/10/rydyba3e.jpg

[Joker]

I thought the title of the thread was "Can we talk Schiada's here?" Why is it every thread someone has to chime in with 10 different brand boats that are better than the one that was asked about? You guys should start your own thread to fuck up and talk about the shit boxes that you think are so great! For a river, pleasure or ski race boat the Schiada is tough to beat. Especially in a V drive! I have a 79' RC that I just finished a 3 year restoration on.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/10/rydyba3e.jpg

Very Nice.

[Mitch]

The thread is called lets talk about Schiadas . I have yet to see one comment pretaining to the original question from a Schiada owner ? Engine placement , gears ,props turbos , blowers ,

[Wendi]

I thought the title of the thread was "Can we talk Schiada's here?" Why is it every thread someone has to chime in with 10 different brand boats that are better than the one that was asked about? You guys should start your own thread to fuck up and talk about the shit boxes that you think are so great! For a river, pleasure or ski race boat the Schiada is tough to beat. Especially in a V drive! I have a 79' RC that I just finished a 3 year restoration on.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/10/rydyba3e.jpg
Badass and might I add that this boat is our very own "February Hotboat of the Month" Winner!!!

[rivergames]

21 RC's are fucking hogs. If you want the real rush, get a 20SS!



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[stoker22405]

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How was the 21 RT with the 300xs outboard....?

[Adrift]

How was the 21 RT with the 300xs outboard....?

Steve never drove it !! he traded it for a 16' Donzi :shock:

It was my boat that I re-rigged with the 300xs, it was so much fun to drive, fast, quiet and sipped the fuel, PhatCat has it now in Havasu and he loves it :action-smiley-035:

[WESTERNAERO]

so would you go bigger C.I., blower , turbo??

Steve, you've been around these long enough you know the deal. 1000 minimum reliable HP, T400 trans, 29 or bigger gears and it seems to be an 11.5 x 15 is the starting point for a prop.
C.I. equal HP. And power adders are a personal preference for one reason or another.

[stoker22405]

Steve never drove it !! he traded it for a 16' Donzi :shock:

It was my boat that I re-rigged with the 300xs, it was so much fun to drive, fast, quiet and sipped the fuel, PhatCat has it now in Havasu and he loves it :action-smiley-035:

You did a nice job and that boat....
What size shaft and which lower unit and gears is on that motor...?

[Blubyu]

I'm not sure what the fascination is for me with schiadas , but I know I have always wanted to have one, and when I get one there is always a reason I can't keep it...
we need a boat to 8 people just to get to the lake with my 3 sons,... economy has them boatless so we have to (get to) haul every one in our boat...

we have to go the cheeper route to own 2 boats ..one for havasu and one for vegas...we currently have a cheetah wild cat being built with a 525 power
and a 240 hallett with 525 power...

my last schiada 22'was powered by a mild built 468, velvet drive w/4% gears...perfect ski set up... the one before 21rc had a billy dunsmore 460 twin turbo, turbo 400 trans.. that boat was cool... it put it on it's nose some where in the 90's... scared the foc out of me... learned real quick to come off the throttle that fast again...

but after riding in Andrews 21 with a wipple got me thinking schiada again...

so would you go bigger C.I., blower , turbo?? 177251772617727

Big's boat is bad ass, you need to go for a ride in littles his boat is fun too!

[Paul65K]

Steve never drove it !! he traded it for a 16' Donzi :shock:

It was my boat that I re-rigged with the 300xs, it was so much fun to drive, fast, quiet and sipped the fuel, PhatCat has it now in Havasu and he loves it :action-smiley-035:

Phatcat....now Paul65k still does have it and it is a freakin blast to drive.

I've owned 5 Schiada's (never a 21' Vdrive) but a 21RC with O/D and now the RT with 300XS and I can say that this boat is very controllable and fast....the midrange acceleration (45 - 75) is awesome.

I have never had a boat that handled the chop as well as the RT and judicious use of the tabs will keep the boat absolutely planted in the position you put it in.......the Schiada is heavy for sure compared to some of the lighter boats like a Stoker and surely the top end suffers (mine is right around 80 with 26P 4 blade cleaver) but the extra weight sure make a difference when you are in 3' boat chop :thumbsup

I think this hull design was about 10 years ahead of the O/B technology needed to truly unleash the true potential but now that the 2 are married I think it is the perfect lower cost/maintenance/fuel usage alternative to the grandaddy of them all....the 21' RC with a V-Drive!!!


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[Paul65K]

You did a nice job and that boat....
What size shaft and which lower unit and gears is on that motor...?

20" shaft and 1.75 gears.....spinning 26" 4 clade cleaver !!


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[Mitch]

so would you go bigger C.I., blower , turbo??

Steve, you've been around these long enough you know the deal. 1000 minimum reliable HP, T400 trans, 29 or bigger gears and it seems to be an 11.5 x 15 is the starting point for a prop.
C.I. equal HP. And power adders are a personal preference for one reason or another.

Nailed it :)

[Stainless]

20" shaft and 1.75 gears.....spinning 26" 4 clade cleaver !!


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Paul, will you be trying a 1:62 SM?

[Paul65K]

Paul, will you be trying a 1:62 SM?

That's a great question.......I sure think about it a lot but in the end high 70's is probably fine for me all day long.

My wife starts beating on me at 60+ and really swinging when I get close to 70....so what's the point :D

In all seriousness I think if you want to go faster than 80 it should only be in a V-Drive with full cav plates and a VERY experienced driver........I certainly know my limits and I'm there right now :)


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[Joker]

That's a great question.......I sure think about it a lot but in the end high 70's is probably fine for me all day long.

My wife starts beating on me at 60+ and really swinging when I get close to 70....so what's the point :D

In all seriousness I think if you want to go faster than 80 it should only be in a V-Drive with full cav plates and a VERY experienced driver........I certainly know my limits and I'm there right now :)


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Hey Paul, good seeing you here.

[Paul65K]

Hey Paul, good seeing you here.

Thanks John,

Nice to be in a place where they don't call you a "Fucking Moron"...........well, at least not yet :D

[gn7]

Thanks John,

Nice to be in a place where they don't call you a "Fucking Moron"...........well, at least not yet :D
Give me time:wink2:

[Joker]

Thanks John,

Nice to be in a place where they don't call you a "Fucking Moron"...........well, at least not yet :D

From speaking to you, you're far from a moron. Now back to boating.

[Paul65K]

From speaking to you, you're far from a moron. Now back to boating.

Thanks :thumb:

[2FORCEFULL]

Thanks :thumb:

how long did he talk to you?????LOL

[The Doctor]

21 RC's are fucking hogs. If you want the real rush, get a 20SS!

Bought a nice one out of Northern California but I sold it to a familiar Texan. :D

[rivergames]

Bought a nice one out of Northern California but I sold it to a familiar Texan. :D

He has 2 in is backyard right now... correct?

[Mitch]

Bought a nice one out of Northern California but I sold it to a familiar Texan. :D

Do you remember who you bought it from?